Hi,
Has anyone out there had trouble with fuel consumption on the Eos?
I have the paprika red 2.0ltr TDI, and having done 3,500 miles since it was bought last July and the most we have managed to get out of it is 37mpg.
According to the paperwork it should be doing a combined of 47mpg. Its been back to vw and been put on the machines but apparently everything is right. VW have told me that it doesn`t do its ultimate performance until its done 5,000 miles. Anyone with any ideas or if you`re having the same trouble i would love to hear from you.
Thanks
Julie

Be patient.
Diesels take 5-10,000 miles to loosen up. My Discovery now has 160,000 miles & consumption is less now than it was at 50,000 miles. The engine took till 15,000 miles till I got any sort of performance or fuel economy. But diesels do last for almost ever. My wifes Focus TDCI needed 5,000 miles before it gave good fuel consumption.
Going for a test drive in the Eos on Friday. I hope it drives as well as you all say. Hope I don't have to wait to long to get my own.

Cheers Jim,
I realise what you`re saying but I bought a new golf 2.0ltr TDI before I got the Eos, and from day one it was doing the correct mpg

Hi,
Has anyone out there had trouble with fuel consumption on the Eos?
I have the paprika red 2.0ltr TDI, and having done 3,500 miles since it was bought last July and the most we have managed to get out of it is 37mpg.
According to the paperwork it should be doing a combined of 47mpg. Its been back to vw and been put on the machines but apparently everything is right. VW have told me that it doesn`t do its ultimate performance until its done 5,000 miles. Anyone with any ideas or if you`re having the same trouble i would love to hear from you.
Thanks
Julie
Hi JUlie,
My 2.0 TDI only has 400 miles on it at the moment and it is doing 38 on average (trip 2), I am sure your mpg will improve as the engine loosens up.

Paul

I thought my MPG was low and posted a question to the club. I got the same old answers about needing to run the engine in etc. Well I've now got just over 3000 on the clock and its true the mpg has got a bit better. I can get up to 47mpg ( 2.oTDI sport) however my daily ride is near perfect ie long ride of 50 miles on relatively uncongested motorway. I think it did take me a while to get used to the gearing on the car. It seems that within reason you keep the revs high and the gearing low. Good luck

I have also read else where that in the US engines (I assume it would be the same for all) that the oil they ship with have and additive that is supposed to aid in break in (ring seating). Once you have your first service with an oil change at 5000 miles (not sure what it is in km) your mileage can improve some.

Mines gradually getting better just done 3,800 in mine and has gone up to 36.5 mpg thats pure traffic work.

Laura

laura:

you are on the imperial gallon. could you just tell me how many kilomers you are getting to the tank?

duck

420 miles per tank
How you transfer to Km, I dont know. Says 675.89 km per tank. I dont know if thats correct? Used converter on my phone.

Laura

In the US here I have the 2.0T gasoline engine and I am averaging 27MPG which I think is very good..It has been very cold too I expect further into spring it will improve

I was getting 27mpg at first, but with 8000 on the clock I'm now getting 31mpg-same roads, same driving style...

I was getting 27mpg at first, but with 8000 on the clock I'm now getting 31mpg-same roads, same driving style...

Don't forget US gallons are smaller than Imperial ones!

My Eos is due in April but I've covered 65,000 miles in the same engined Audi A4 Quattro, and I can confirm that the mpg improves as the engine loosens - different car but I average 34-35mpg on a regular non-motorway commute, up from 28-29mpg when the car was new.

The 2.0TFSI is a fabulous engine and I wanted another one!!!!!

The 2.0TFSI is a fabulous engine and I wanted another one!!!!!

Couldn't agree more its fantastic!

My week old Eos (2.0TDI DSG) appears to be giving an average of around 42mpg, which seems very good for a new engine.

Getting about 31MPG in my 2.0TFSI at the moment - that's on a 60 mile motorway trip to work. Went out last weekend and stuck the cruise at 70 and got around 35MPG which wasn't bad (not sure if it makes any difference but the roof was down for that).

Just coming upto 3000 miles on the clock so hopefully the numbers will get better :)

I would not expect the Eos to get anywhere near 47mpg.

Ours is a petrol and is doing around 30 but my comparison is with my Accord Diesel which has averaged 50 over 93k Miles and it is around 130Kg lighter than the Eos TDI and it is weight which kills economy, especially around town.

Also to consider is any extras - these add weight, and in the case of tyres rolling resistance, which drop the specified figure.

Shocked with mine its now doing in the 40's. As they say diesels take a time to bed in.

Laura

Getting about 31MPG in my 2.0TFSI at the moment - that's on a 60 mile motorway trip to work. Went out last weekend and stuck the cruise at 70 and got around 35MPG which wasn't bad (not sure if it makes any difference but the roof was down for that).

Just coming upto 3000 miles on the clock so hopefully the numbers will get better :)


Mine's a 2.0 TFSI as well and that's just about exactly what I get too. Whether the roof is up or down makes quite a difference I think. I was disappointed with mine doing only 29 on a motorway journey a few weeks ago so I shut the sunroof to see if that made any difference and it immediately went up to 33/34! Having the whole roof down would no doubt affect it much more.

Hi Julie,

Yes it does take time for the engine to 'loosen up' and to get best mpg - having said that mine )TDi) has only done 900miles and already often returns 40+ even with the roof down at 80+ mph? Best i have had is 46mpg driving carefully (and i thought that was dissapointing! compared to what they tell you)

Best advise is let it go a bit - they are bench tested these days and do not really need running in the same as old engines used to - so i'm told?

Let us know if it improves?

Jules

Jules,

My dealer told me to run the car in, and so does the manual. It has helped me with my heavy right foot too.

John

Hi Julie

I get regular mid-40 mpg economy from my TDi. However, I see that you have only done 3000+ miles in nine months, which suggests lots of short runs at low temperature. Is that the case? If I had to do a daily shortish traffic commute I guess I would be down nearer your consumption figure.
I use a different vehicle for runs to the supermarket and that type of thing and am am fortunate enough to be retired, so I can usually plan my Eos journeys to avoid the worst of rush hours. Also, and I do lots of motorway running both here and in France/Belgium/Germany. I don't hang about, but I don't take it to the redline in the gears either. I never get less than 500 miles to the tankful and am very satisfied. Oil consumption negligible too.

From my experience with older VW diesels, I think you can expect slight but steady improvement up to around the 30,000 mile mark.
Good luck

Noel

Just over 900 miles on mine now and the average has gone up from 38mpg at 400 mile to 40.3mpg now with mixed driving, havn't got the lightest of right feet either. :)

Paul

I hope I get that good of mileage.... I'm at about 3000mi and still getting around 27mpg. I noticed a difference when tooling around with the top down vs up. I know I'm not driving the most efficiently right now too..... I love to punch the turbo.

Just completed 4,000 miles around Europe in my wife's 2.0 TFSI in3 weeks . Average 28.2 mpg.

This includes both tearing up and down motorways fully loaded (ie couldn't get another thing in the boot) and gentle touring (roof down).

Re the 2.0 TDI consumption. My wife's previous car was an A3 2.0 TDI DSG and it would hit 47 mpg.
As that car is considerably lighter than the EOS I think you would have to drive in your stocking feet to achieve that sort of figure.

Graham

Please take into account that the following figures are from the VW Australia Brochure and apply to Australian Specifications but I believe that the principles are the same.

Golf 2.0 TDI with DSG - Tare Mass - 1350kg or 2976.2 lbs
Combined fuel consumption for urban and highway cycle - 6.1 l/100km or 46.31 mpg.

Eos 2.0 TDI with DSG - Tare Mass - 1581kg or 3485.5 lbs.
Combined urban and highway cycle - 6.9 l/100km or 40.94 mpg.

So the actual weight difference is 231kg or 509.3 pounds. The difference in the fuel figures is 0.8 l/100km or 5.37 mpg.

For comparison the numbers on the combined cycle for other VW models -

Eos 2.0 TFSI with DSG - 8.2 l/100km or 34.45 mpg
Golf GTI 2.0 TFSI with DSG - 8.0 l/100km or 35.31 mpg

Note that the fuel figures are for an Australian Government fuel standard which combines both city and highway consumption figures but the test is the same for both cars and the figures are comparable. It is also considered that these combined test figures are better than the real word consumption and that is also my experience.

The BMW 320i provides the following figures -

City - 10.7 l/100km or 26.4 mpg
Highway - 5.4 l/100km or 52.31 mpg
Combined - 7.4 l/100km or 38.17 mpg

In my personal experience these figures for City and Highway are very close to the mark in my current car. So about a 44% increase on the combined figure for City consumption and 27% decrease for highway consumption should get you close to real world figures if the combined figures are accurate.

The other major factor is whether the roof is up or down. I would suggest that all the figures above would be for the roof up, sunroof closed and windows up. The reason for this is that any turbulence created by the vehicle moving through the air creates drag. The more turbulence the more drag. I can't remember where I read it in the last couple of days but in a review of a convertible and I do not recall if it was an Eos, it said that the roof up Cd (Coefficient of drag) was .32 and the Cd roof down was .39 a major change.

So if you are driving on the highway you would expect that the consumption would be higher than the official figures by a fair number if the roof was down as the consideration here is that turbulence and drag occurs with the velocity squared. So the faster you go the much higher the drag.

Early days yet. But mine is showing 6.9 to 7.0 about 40mpg. Only done 300Km so as I say could change a bit and should improve. That's also nearly all top down or sunroof open.

Since I ordered my EOS in March the Discovery has improved & at 265000Km I'm getting 8.5/100Km or about 33mpg.

Jim.

Now done 1000Km. Fuel consumption is improving & is now 6.5L/100Km or 43mpg.:)

Julie how is your TDI doing now. I hope it's better as mine is a DSG not manual.

Happy EDA's,
Jim.

My 3 month old EOS, with about 4,000 miles is comfortably delivering an average in excess of 43 miles per gallon. I am pretty happy with that.

HI Jim,
No my tdi is still not doing very well (manual box), can only get 35 mpg still.
Have spoken to dealer today and they are going to have it back next week again and put it on the testers. Not impressed but I suppose if they can find what the problem is and rectify it it`ll be okay but last time it was in they did the tests then and couldn`t find anything wrong!
Perhaps I`ve just got a duff `un.
I`ll let you know what happens next week
Cheers
Julie

Now done 1000Km. Fuel consumption is improving & is now 6.5L/100Km or 43mpg.:)

Julie how is your TDI doing now. I hope it's better as mine is a DSG not manual.

Happy EDA's,
Jim.

Jim,
Mileage is still only doing 35mpg and after speaking to my dealer today the car is going back to be put on the testers next week. Also don`t forget mine is the manual so should be doing more than the auto`s. This will be the 2nd time vw have had the car back about this problem so I doubt if they will find anything wrong this time either! Really hope something can be done as I`m really getting fed up with the situation now.
I`ll let you know what the outcome is next week
Julie

Jim,
Mileage is still only doing 35mpg and after speaking to my dealer today the car is going back to be put on the testers next week. Also don`t forget mine is the manual so should be doing more than the auto`s. This will be the 2nd time vw have had the car back about this problem so I doubt if they will find anything wrong this time either! Really hope something can be done as I`m really getting fed up with the situation now.
I`ll let you know what the outcome is next week
Julie

Hi Julie.
I hope you get it fixed. Since I've had mine I've been surprised how willing the TDI engine is. My old Discovery didn't want to accelerate (well ok gain speed) when new & took quite a while to free up.
When I asked my dealer about running-in my EOS, he said there was no need. I of course have ignored him & I'm not pushing the engine or making it labour for the first 2000Km - 600Km to go. But it really just wants to go. Pick-up is fantastic.
I'm really pleased as fuel is spot-on VW quoted figure for a DSG, so I reckon could better that with more miles.

If you're still only getting 35mpg, something has to be wrong. Even if you thrashed it all the time or did only town driving I'd expect better than that.

I do tend to accellerate up to cruising speed as quickly as possible. Then hold that speed constant by keeping a distance to cars in front. Diesels do give better mileage at a constant throttle.
But I don't think that would account for the difference of 8mpg you're getting over mine. I should be worse than you by about 10% because of the DSG box. If mine was a manual I would expect ~47mpg.

My drive to the office is around a small town & then country roads - no motorways. But the road has lots of bends & hills with speeds up to around 50 -70mph. 20 miles takes 35 mins. Probably had the top down 60% of the time - we've had a week of thunderstorms.

Good luck with the dealer. Don't let them off the hook.

Hi Julie.
I hope you get it fixed. Since I've had mine I've been surprised how willing the TDI engine is. My old Discovery didn't want to accelerate (well ok gain speed) when new & took quite a while to free up.
When I asked my dealer about running-in my EOS, he said there was no need. I of course have ignored him & I'm not pushing the engine or making it labour for the first 2000Km - 600Km to go. But it really just wants to go. Pick-up is fantastic.
I'm really pleased as fuel is spot-on VW quoted figure for a DSG, so I reckon could better that with more miles.

If you're still only getting 35mpg, something has to be wrong. Even if you thrashed it all the time or did only town driving I'd expect better than that.

I do tend to accellerate up to cruising speed as quickly as possible. Then hold that speed constant by keeping a distance to cars in front. Diesels do give better mileage at a constant throttle.
But I don't think that would account for the difference of 8mpg you're getting over mine. I should be worse than you by about 10% because of the DSG box. If mine was a manual I would expect ~47mpg.

My drive to the office is around a small town & then country roads - no motorways. But the road has lots of bends & hills with speeds up to around 50 -70mph. 20 miles takes 35 mins. Probably had the top down 60% of the time - we've had a week of thunderstorms.

Good luck with the dealer. Don't let them off the hook.
Hi Jim,
Well vw have had my car since Monday returning it to me at lunch time today.Apparently the manager used it to do his home journey and wey and behold all of a sudden its doing 48mpg and when they did the fuel refill it averaged at 51mpg. Don`t mean to sound like an idiot but why should it suddenly do wonderful mpg without them doing anything to it? Tomorrow before I go to work I will do a 50 mile run and then do a tank refill just to see for myself. If its accurate I will find it pretty amazing..... a miracle has happened without them even touching it!!!!!!
I`ll let you kow tomorrow night of the outcome,
Julie

Hi Jim,
Well vw have had my car since Monday returning it to me at lunch time today.Apparently the manager used it to do his home journey and wey and behold all of a sudden its doing 48mpg and when they did the fuel refill it averaged at 51mpg. Don`t mean to sound like an idiot but why should it suddenly do wonderful mpg without them doing anything to it? Tomorrow before I go to work I will do a 50 mile run and then do a tank refill just to see for myself. If its accurate I will find it pretty amazing..... a miracle has happened without them even touching it!!!!!!
I`ll let you kow tomorrow night of the outcome,
Julie

Hi Julie,
That's more like it. Can hear you smiling now. Perhaps they did something without admitting it to you. Can't see that driving style could have that sort of difference.
Just had a thought. I guess your TDI has the FAP filter same as mine. If you do a lot of short runs under say 10 miles & in town, I understand the FAP can get clogged up. The engine needs to get good & hot to keep it clean & help with emissions (soot etc). Perhaps the manager gave a bit of a blast & cleaned out the filter for you.

I hope it goes well on your run.
Keep us all posted.
Happy EDA's.
Jim.

Wow wish my 3.2 gasser was getting that! I got 29 today going a smooth 60-65 MPH to work.after the traffic on the way home I took the back roads and it went down to 26 MPG Avg.:rolleyes:

And this driving with eggshells under my socks!:eek:
If I was having some fun I be at about 20 avg but she only has less then 500 Miles on her so It may get better.. well I'm hoping so.

A recent survey found that sales of lead boots increased in certain areas of the country. It came as no surprise to learn that in areas where the VW EOS sales are at their highest, lead boot sales were too:p .Now this could just be an almighty coincidence;) On the other hand, if you build into the equation the data from our little community. Yes, yes, I know, "good heavens just look at my speed!:eek: " - and another one " you know, you'd never guess we were going that fast would you:rolleyes: " - "crumbs officer, I didn't realise she had it in her! " I,ve used all except the last which I am hoping to avoid but hey, it's sooo easy huh?

Agreed, if your having fun, the fuel consumption tends to be low down your priorities. If just commuting and having an average speed of 10mph then I suppose it moves up the priority table a lot.

i drive reasonably quick and mostly short trips
average mpg (UK) is 30 from 2.0T manual

Agreed, if your having fun, the fuel consumption tends to be low down your priorities. If just commuting and having an average speed of 10mph then I suppose it moves up the priority table a lot.

Hi Gogg,
I always drive at the speed I feel like. As long as the police aren't around. Spent the last 10 years in Munich. 130mph on my BMW R1150RS is fun over there. 80mph in the UK is not - too many idiots not looking in mirrors before pulling out on you or tail-gating. In Germany they expect fast vehicles from behind & most drive accordingly.

Getting back to fuel consumption. It is what it is. I'm very happy with my 43mpg. I bought the TDI, as you can use most of it's performance & it doesn't cost a fortune to run. In France even the insurance is half the cost of the TFSI.
My drive to the office is across country at between 10 & 80mph. It's fun every day. If I feel like it I can hit 85 easily between the bends, sometimes even around them when it's quieter.
Too hot tonight to have the top down 35C is a bit warm, just rolled the roof back & had the windows down . How's the rain in England.:D

Bringing her over to Uttoxeter in August to get away from the heat here. Hope we get some good top-down days by then.

Happy EDA's
Jim.

Hi Gogg,
Too hot tonight to have the top down 35C is a bit warm, just rolled the roof back & had the windows down . How's the rain in England.:D

Happy EDA's
Jim.

Hi Jim regarding the rain in England wouldn't know, don't live there:rolleyes:
In my neck of the woods there has only been 1 or 2 days in the past month where one would call it top down weather. Beginning to wonder if a convertible was worth the extra money:D

Cheers

Hi Jim regarding the rain in England wouldn't know, don't live there:rolleyes:

Cheers

Sorry Gogg. Should have spotted you come from the place named after that superb cake.:rolleyes:

You know it was worth it. Even when it's raining.

Cheers,
Jim

Jim, No problem, but you did forget about the marmalade.

PS its still pi**ing down here

Cheers

To report on my first EDA (been 10k before my first EDA).

Drove to the beach (Abt 250mi) and I nearly made it round trip on one tank. I averaged 34mpg in my 2.0T. Had to fill up just at 50mi from home. Very happy with those numbers...

Cheers!

To report on my first EDA (been 10k before my first EDA).

Drove to the beach (Abt 250mi) and I nearly made it round trip on one tank. I averaged 34mpg in my 2.0T. Had to fill up just at 50mi from home. Very happy with those numbers...

Cheers!

I'd agree with those numbers, get about 30-31mpg when I'm not trying, 35mpg when I'm playing the 'how far can we go' game.

And its still raining here! AAAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!

Paul:cool:

I'd agree with those numbers, get about 30-31mpg when I'm not trying, 35mpg when I'm playing the 'how far can we go' game.

And its still raining here! AAAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!

Paul:cool:

I totally understand the "how far can we go" game. Starting slow, smooth, and cruise control. Not nearly as fun, but hey.... it's the mileage game. The first long trip is always the test. After that, eh.. just knowing what your car is capable of is the real thing right... not that we always try.:cool:

Oh, and sorry bout the rain... what a bummer....

I'd agree with those numbers, get about 30-31mpg when I'm not trying, 35mpg when I'm playing the 'how far can we go' game.

And its still raining here! AAAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!

Paul:cool:

Agree with you in the main but I did see 39.1 last week when I was REALLY trying!

And its still raining here! AAAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!

Paul:cool:


It's stopped raining here in sunny Sheffield. People seem to be using boats as their mode of transport now tho!:eek:
I get about 24mpg out of the EOS rising to 30+ on a decent journey. My usual trip to work is 2 miles each way, so wouldn't expect it to be much higher (city driving too).

It's still drought season here in Ontario, Canada. Never thought I would wish I would have to put the top up! My mileage has consistently averaged 37 mpg (Imperial gallon) or 30 mpg to the US gallon. No lead foot here, and virtually all driving is on country roads. I won't complain with that performance!

Thats the same sort of return I'm getting as well (24mpg) with similar journeys to you. Longer runs its low 30's

Thats the same sort of return I'm getting as well (24mpg) with similar journeys to you. Longer runs its low 30's


Have you tried changing your lead boots for leather ones Graham?!

It's the performance I like. As for maximum mpg I don't really care that much as I only do about 5-6k miles/year, . In fact I probably will end up spending just about as much on tyres as petrol. I love showing the boy racers with their bolt on body parts and big bore exhasts on their Fiestas and Corsas a clean pair of shiny exhausts away from the lights. Just the damn'd wheel spin that's a pi**er.
Long live plimsoles.

Just had a lot of EDAs while on holiday and did a lot of motorway driving (65-75MPH) mixed with top up and down. The average for 500miles was 34mpg.
Very pleased indeed.

I've now got 7383 miles up since 18th January. Over the last 1000 miles or so my mpg has gone up from 25/26 to 29.8. This could be age related, but probably due to more A to B country driving, less pleasure trips (although all Eos driving is a pleasure), less commuting, and the top is up, due to this flippin' weather. The latter makes a big difference. This is for the 3.2

John

Hi,

On my USA Eos with USA 2.0 L Engine, 6 spd auto stick, sport package, at the 2000 mile point, I have gotten 32.5 mpg on trip where average speed was 60 MPH with no AC. About 26 mpg for city driving with AC. Very happy with that MPG given the huge power boost over my VW Cabrio I used to own that only got 26 mpg on the highway.

Randy

my eos has only done 1500 and i am just getting 32mpg but it is getting better and the car is fun i have the roof down a lot so expect that does,t help Rosemary oxford