I have just placed an order for a manual transmission Eos Sport TDI which I expect to receive in April 2007. Is there anyone on the site who currently owns this model? If so I would love to hear what your experience has been and whether you think that the TDI was a good choice.

Also, I opted for Midnight Blue with Cornsilk Beige leather upholstery but only on the basis of samples, there being no model available to view or test drive other than a manual Sport 2.0T FSI in black with red upholstery. Has anyone seen my chosen combination "in the flesh"? If so what did you think of my choice?

I have just placed an order for a manual transmission Eos Sport TDI which I expect to receive in April 2007. Is there anyone on the site who currently owns this model? If so I would love to hear what your experience has been and whether you think that the TDI was a good choice.

Also, I opted for Midnight Blue with Cornsilk Beige leather upholstery but only on the basis of samples, there being no model available to view or test drive other than a manual Sport 2.0T FSI in black with red upholstery. Has anyone seen my chosen combination "in the flesh"? If so what did you think of my choice?



Think there are a few on the VW/Audi Forum Website who have the TDi. Have seen a dark blue Eos on the road although not sure if it was Midnight Blue or Shadow Blue (my second choice although I wanted the Red Nappa leather so couldn't have it) and it looked very classy.

Hi Rob,

I was getting a TDI on 23rd December but now it's going to be tomorrow! (18th) - what you have ordered was exactly my choice but because of my impatience haha (well, also wanted to change my current car quicker) - I got one close to what I wanted..got a Sport 2.0 TDI in Shadow Blue with Cloth interior...havent seen the one you want in the flesh but the Cornsilk Beige looks great if you have seen the VW brochure (the Eos next to the waterfall pic)..

I'm no Jeremy Clarkson when it comes to cars so I'll be limited about what to tell you about mine... i.e. how it handles etc - but I will let you know what I think of it of course :)

Andy,

Congrats, looking forward to seeing photos of your car and welcome to the site.

Hi Rob,

I pick up my Eos TDI tomorrow (19th Dec - can't wait!) and will happily share my thoughts on it with you.

Overall tho, I think diesel is the sensible option with an expensive car.

I have already driven it and can tell you it isn't slow by any manner of means. It's nippy as hell!! It pulls away with surges of power that you just don't get with petrol engines.

And..............it's economical too!

And..............it won't depreciate as much.

Thats why I bought mine anyway.

Regards the colour choices, I really struggled when choosing. My initial choice was for midnight blue with red leather, however, after configuring it on the site, I wasn't sure so opted for leonie blue with black leather, mainly because thats what the dealer had there, I could see it and I liked it. Have since seen a midnight blue one tho and it was classy. Not sure what interior it had tho.

Will keep you updated.

HTH

Darren,

Interested to hear you chose Leonie blue as this is the colour I have chosen for my TFSi which is due for delivery on 1st March. I am having to wait, but it is hard going! I chose the colour 'blind' and have yet to see one in the flesh - pictures, I'm sure do not do the colour justice.
Good luck with your Eos.

Gravey

Hi Rob,

I pick up my Eos TDI tomorrow (19th Dec - can't wait!) and will happily share my thoughts on it with you.

Overall tho, I think diesel is the sensible option with an expensive car.

I have already driven it and can tell you it isn't slow by any manner of means. It's nippy as hell!! It pulls away with surges of power that you just don't get with petrol engines.

And..............it's economical too!

And..............it won't depreciate as much.

Thats why I bought mine anyway.

Regards the colour choices, I really struggled when choosing. My initial choice was for midnight blue with red leather, however, after configuring it on the site, I wasn't sure so opted for leonie blue with black leather, mainly because thats what the dealer had there, I could see it and I liked it. Have since seen a midnight blue one tho and it was classy. Not sure what interior it had tho.

Will keep you updated.

HTH


You can't get red leather with midnight blue otherwise I would have done! Great colour but I really wanted the red leather so ended up with silver. It looks great and I haven't seen another one in UK in silver; also it doesn't show the dirt much. Have seen both midnight blue and leonie blue ones and they do look good!

I have a silver Eos and one of the guys at work has one too. They look fab and we think it has a slight hint of blue in the sun. We also have Chicargo alloys. Hope to get picture nose to nose soon.
RgdS Paj
PS What is the plurel of Eos?

Hi Paj45, just found this site, certainly more movement than the other owners site - be interesting to see which one wins out. Have posted latest dealer drama on Eos Owners Club and will be interested in diesel comments should I hand back the 200bhp T FSI. Could become a convert to the Sport 2.0 TDI !

Mr B, am I stalking you or vice versa. If you don't mind waiting, my TDi will be fore sale in early Nov 07. I might try the BMW version then, especially if there is more room for the kids in the back. You should have seen there faces when I dropped the roof whilst playing ABBA and it was only 4 degrees outside.
RgdS Paj

I have a silver Eos and one of the guys at work has one too. They look fab and we think it has a slight hint of blue in the sun. We also have Chicargo alloys. Hope to get picture nose to nose soon.
RgdS Paj
PS What is the plurel of Eos?


Would agree with you about the slight hint of blue; parked next to a silver Golf you can see it's a completely different silver.

Think I would go for Eoses as the plural!

I hjave just ordered the TDi sport up in Aberdeen (well, the order went in back in November). Anyone have any idea wha the delivery times in Aberdeen are?! They told me about April / May but they really didn't have a clue! :confused:

I have the EOS 2.0 TDI sport. I have found mine to be alittle dodgy at times with Traction. This is in comparison to the Mark 5 golf I had before this.
Seems to happen when you are wanting to get out quickly.

Anyone else have this prob?

Hi Lynne,

Not sure about the delivery times in Aberdeen, but I ordered my Eos in Glasgow in early October and collected it on the 19th December.

Not sure who the VW dealer is in Aberdeen anymore, but I approached Arnold Clark here in Glasgow and they advised me they couldn't deliver for months.

Verve, the other dealership who I ordered with delivered in no time.

Regarding traction problems, I haven't had any problem whatsoever with my Eos so far........having said that, I've only done 1000 miles in it.

Ive done 2,700 miles in mine, had it since September. Do 12 miles aday when backwards and forwards to work. But when trying to get off our business park at the end of the day is terrible. You put your foot down and its like someone has slammed on brakes when you are actually pulling away. Ive read on top gear site about the same prob.

Quote Top Gear site road test:

About the only wild side to this car is the lack of front traction, because the leading wheels easily spin when you accelerate. Doubtless the lower-powered versions wouldn't suffer from this brief bout of tyre-smoking hilarity.

Hi Laura,

Can you post a link? I can't find the article on the website, I must be looking in the wrong bit........

Would be good to hear what Clarkson thinks of our new toys lol.

Ta

Various eos bits on Top gear site:

http://www.topgear.com/search/Ask?webJsp=%2Fjsp%2FaskWebResults.jsp&siteJsp=%2Fjsp%2FaskSiteResults.jsp&errorJsp=%2Fjsp%2FaskSearchError.jsp&q=eos&searchType=site&x=28&y=7

Excellent Laura thanks,

I was trying to access the top gear site through the BBC site......doh!

Hi There I Have Owned A 20 Tdi Since Dec06 , Cant Fault It Great Looks Great Drive , Mine Is A Black Sport With Beige Nappa , As I Bought It From Already Deliverd In The Country There Arnt Many Extras On It ,only 18 Inch Chicago Alloys And Cruise. You Wont Be Sorry I Am Looking Now At Buying A New Roof Opening Module That Allows You To Work The Roof Of The Key Fob Regards

Whooo! Tell me more about the key fob. I have a Black sport TDi with Red Nappa coming. Hoped they did a remote roof but didn't see it as an option. ( I do have the Thunderbirds theme on CD for the initial roof opening ceremony though!) and I got a cool 007 (AO 07) plate with it too!

Apparently Vw Dont Know Of This But If You Look On E-bay Under Vw Eos There Is A Module From The States That Plugs Into The Loom In Place Of The Existing One That Looks Fantastic

Whooo! Tell me more about the key fob. I have a Black sport TDi with Red Nappa coming. Hoped they did a remote roof but didn't see it as an option. ( I do have the Thunderbirds theme on CD for the initial roof opening ceremony though!) and I got a cool 007 (AO 07) plate with it too!
Remote roof would have been cool but expensive. I know the newer Saab's have that option and it is cool.

I've had my grey sport TDI for a couple of days now and really pleased with its feel. My commute is pretty long but good roads so I am used to getting a good mileage with a TDI. The Eos mpg just seems way down. With the quoted mpg I would expect to be getting maybe 50mpg on this run but only getting maybe 36mpg. Anyone had the same? Do I just have to wait for it to run in some more?
It also seems to have a bit of a turbo kick at 20k, I'm not sure this is right as the TDI is supposed to have a variable speed turbo that comes in smoothly, again anyone felt the same?

Hi
Have you got your computer set to record the MPG continuously, I mean over several journeys, setting (2), or do you have it on the first setting (1) which only records from the start of each journey.
Setting two should show a better MPG overall.
Hope this helps.
Bill T

To The Baron,
I am an rx8 driver also, contemplating the Eos.
So looking forward to your opinions.
Jack.

Hi
Have you got your computer set to record the MPG continuously, I mean over several journeys, setting (2), or do you have it on the first setting (1) which only records from the start of each journey.
Setting two should show a better MPG overall.
Hope this helps.
Bill T

Thanks Bill, I do look at both MPG. Things were a little better this morning 44MPG. maybe its just settling down. I'll give it a little time but would be interesed in what other people are getting.

:) Hi Dave
I have only 650 miles on the clock so far and have the DSG box fitted to my TDI, the mpg is similar to yours, but as you say the mpg should improve with more miles on the clock.
Bill

You will find these poor MPG readings because the start of all journeys are always thirsty. Consider the engine starts and runs rich and is doing stop start driving as you leave your garage/drive and then minor roads. If you reset the MPG once into the journey you will find an improved figure. Official MPG figures are gathered in a perfect enviroment (makes the car look good to potential buyers). Also consider how much of the cars power you are using, I like to enjoy the surge of turbo grunt which therefore knocks the figure about. I have watched the instant MPG whilst on the autobahn and giving it big licks I managed about 18mpg at about 135mph. When I tried this in my old Golf GTi Mk5, I achieved 12mpg at 150 mph. (O how I miss the British motorway sysyem.....Not). I hope this highlights some reasons why you are not getting what you expect. The main thing is you enjoy the car you have worked hard to get.
Best RgdS Paj.

You will find these poor MPG readings because the start of all journeys are always thirsty. Consider the engine starts and runs rich and is doing stop start driving as you leave your garage/drive and then minor roads. If you reset the MPG once into the journey you will find an improved figure. Official MPG figures are gathered in a perfect enviroment (makes the car look good to potential buyers). Also consider how much of the cars power you are using, I like to enjoy the surge of turbo grunt which therefore knocks the figure about. I have watched the instant MPG whilst on the autobahn and giving it big licks I managed about 18mpg at about 135mph. When I tried this in my old Golf GTi Mk5, I achieved 12mpg at 150 mph. (O how I miss the British motorway sysyem.....Not). I hope this highlights some reasons why you are not getting what you expect. The main thing is you enjoy the car you have worked hard to get.
Best RgdS Paj.

Thanks for your thoughts Paj, I agree with all your points but I still say that even after a good warm up on a nice flat straight road I can't get the mpg figure up. I know that to get near the official figures I will have to be driving under optimal conditions but I am and I can't! Still as you say the main thing is to enjoy the car and in spite of my going on about mpg it is a great drive and I do really enjoy it.:)

Like Rob1, we have just placed an order for a manual transmission Eos Sport TDI which we expect to receive in April 2007.

By great coincidence, we too have opted for Midnight Blue with Cornsilk Beige leather upholstery but only on the basis of samples. there being no model available to view or test drive other than a manual Sport 2.0T FSI in black with red upholstery. The thing that concerns us is that it is difficult to envisage just what effect the black elements of the dash will have on the overall look of the interior. Surprisingly Rob has had no reply to his question about what it will look like in the flesh. Anyone got one or seen one yet?

We presently have a Golf 130 TD. Fantastic car - it flies and is ultra-frugal on fuel (mid-50's mpg, no bother) The Eos performance (acceleration) is almost the same. Happy to hear any comments about alleged noise on the diesel Eos and whether it lives up to its claimed fuel consumption.

hi all.. i have the midnight blue with cornsilk interior. has the luxury package and dynaudio....i've had many compliments on the combo...in the US it come with the windbreaker... the only thing i noticed is the back seat shows the dirt after driving alot with the top down. (which is every chance i get) but then that just keeps me on top of the leather conditioning. it still beats sticky fingers from when my kids were small....;)

I have found my TDI sport is not fantastic on fuel doing 37mpg. My golf 1.6fsi was doing 35mpg.

I have found my TDI sport is not fantastic on fuel doing 37mpg. My golf 1.6fsi was doing 35mpg.

Laura, how many miles have you done in total and what journeys do you do - motorways - short trips? I have also ordered a Tdi so interested :confused:

hi that is the car i have, i love the look. and have many compliments on it. the black dash is great. there is no refection on the front window. i have had other cars with other dash colors and there is often a reflection that can bother you when you drive. you won't be disappointed.

I have found my TDI sport is not fantastic on fuel doing 37mpg. My golf 1.6fsi was doing 35mpg.

The dealers told me that mpg will not be optimum until the car is 'run in'. Looking at my manual it's 1500km.
If your car is way above that call your garage and tell them.

John

Laura, how many miles have you done in total and what journeys do you do - motorways - short trips? I have also ordered a Tdi so interested :confused:

Porker,
I have done 3,200 miles roughly. I do 6 miles each way to work, traffic, dual carriageways etc. Weekends it gets a run but I dont think its any better really than my Golf. Both have done same journey. I blame the weight of Eos over the golf.

Laura

A couple of things to upset the tdi drivers. . . .

My diesel Accord was not really run in until it had done 10-15k.

You will be doing well to get 45 MPG out of the EOS because of its weight - Our 2.0 FSI is 110 kg heavier than my diesel Accord Tourer, the diesel Eos is another 65kg heavier than that (total of 175kg more than the Accord) and when loaded (i.e. same weight as an empty diesel Eos) the Honda doesn't do any better than high 40s. It is getting all that weight moving.

On the up side Diesels do not run rich when cold - they don't need to. That is one of the real upsides as they do not loose out significantly when cold because of the mixture. It is getting the weight moving that is the issue.

And when you put the top down the fuel economy goes to hell anyway!

Im leaving an hour later for work this past week 8.30am (school run), and it has dropped to 35mpg. Ian J is correct, its a heavy car and you have to get the thing moving from stop, start all the time. I think also keeping revs down below 2,000 so turbo dont come in will help.
Have you heard the engine on a cold morning as well? Sounds like an old tractor. Hey more realiable but bloody noisey in the morning!
Dont get me wrong love the eos - my 1.6fsi petrol golf done nothing but break down. But i thought it would be better on fuel than it is.
Laura

hi David,
I`m also having alot of trouble with the mpg on my 2.0ltr TDI. I`m lucky to get 35 mpg out of it and have beeen in touch with VW many times as the book says 47mpg.Apparently needs to do at least 5,000 miles....., but i`m not too sure about this. I feel we have all been very misleaded as i actually bought the eos for the good consumption figures
Julie

We have had our TDI for about 10 days and have covered 1,000 miles, averaging 48.5 over that time. Travelling to work yesterday (10 miles) I got 70mpg!!:D

midnight blue with cornsilk beige nappa interior is superb combination. :cool:

Car was supplied by Breeze in Southampton who gave fantastic service.:)

The vw web site lets you virtually build your car in your chosen spec and is quite a good way to see your choice ! Ihave the TDi with DSG box and I love it ! The flappy paddles are a hoot too !

Please take into account that the following figures are from the VW Australia Brochure and apply to Australian Specifications but I believe that the principles are the same.

Golf 2.0 TDI with DSG - Tare Mass - 1350kg or 2976.2 lbs
Combined fuel consumption for urban and highway cycle - 6.1 l/100km or 46.31 mpg.

Eos 2.0 TDI with DSG - Tare Mass - 1581kg or 3485.5 lbs.
Combined urban and highway cycle - 6.9 l/100km or 40.94 mpg.

So the actual weight difference is 231kg or 509.3 pounds. The difference in the fuel figures is 0.8 l/100km or 5.37 mpg.

For comparison the numbers on the combined cycle for other VW models -

Eos 2.0 TFSI with DSG - 8.2 l/100km or 34.45 mpg
Golf GTI 2.0 TFSI with DSG - 8.0 l/100km or 35.31 mpg

Note that the fuel figures are for an Australian Government fuel standard which combines both city and highway consumption figures but the test is the same for both cars and the figures are comparable. It is also considered that these combined test figures are better than the real word consumption and that is also my experience.

The BMW 320i provides the following figures -

City - 10.7 l/100km or 26.4 mpg
Highway - 5.4 l/100km or 52.31 mpg
Combined - 7.4 l/100km or 38.17 mpg

In my personal experience these figures for City and Highway are very close to the mark in my current car. So about a 44% increase on the combined figure for City consumption and 27% decrease for highway consumption should get you close to real world figures if the combined figures are accurate.

The other major factor is whether the roof is up or down. I would suggest that all the figures above would be for the roof up, sunroof closed and windows up. The reason for this is that any turbulence created by the vehicle moving through the air creates drag. The more turbulence the more drag. I can't remember where I read it in the last couple of days but in a review of a convertible and I do not recall if it was an Eos, it said that the roof up Cd (Coefficient of drag) was .32 and the Cd roof down was .39 a major change.

So if you are driving on the highway you would expect that the consumption would be higher than the official figures by a fair number if the roof was down as the consideration here is that turbulence and drag occurs with the velocity squared. So the faster you go the much higher the drag.

Rob,
received my Eos staurday 5th May 2007, TDi Sport, Silver Essence, Red Nappa Leather, Chicagos 18" alloys, 500RCD 6 stacker CD player. 44miles on the clock already wow!!! What a fantastic car, great pulling power, build quality ect ect. Go for it.

Terry

I have had my EOS since Nov 2006 - a TDI Sport 2.0. I am now just over 2000 miles but have had countless problems with the filter on the exhaust. Here is an excerpt I actually wrote to a dealership complaining about it. Their response was that I should try to not drive it for such short distances - thanks Mr Salesman! Would have gone for the petrol instead and not tried to be so green had I known.....time to get a bicycle.

I am afraid I am having non-stop trouble with this vehicle. It is currently in the garage for the same reason as below now but the garage says that I need to attempt to stop driving many short distances???? That is ridiculous, in London. I used the vehicle for less than an hour the other day and the same thing happened. I am actually sick to death of this now.

The guidelines (in the manual, not told to me by the salesperson mind you) says that if the light comes up, you need to take the car and 'drive it for 20 minutes non-stop over 20 mph'…… I would love to do that in morning traffic to the station, it would be a blessing! I am actually causing more emissions by having to every week now drive to the A3 and try and get this type of run in effected, only for the light to come back on very soon.

If you live in London and you do tight driving on a weekly basis, I would not recommend you getting the diesel version of this car. It is clearly meant to be driven on continuous long distances. There is nothing VW can do for me except to kindly keep on charging me £86 every time I need to have my filter cleared as my system management has kicked in.....So much for saving the planet, VW - the filter causes more problems that it prevents!

Apart from that rant, love the car. Black with cornsilk leather, full house. A definite head turner.

If you have only done 2000 miles since november then you must be doing less than 5000 per year. The diesel engine is most efficient on long journeys and is a real mile muncher on the motorway. Unfortunalety it throws out lots of particulate on short journeys.

You would have been better off with the 2.0 FSI petrol, no DPF filter to worry about. The salesman should have made it clear to you what your best options were. Sadly most salesman dont give a fig and just want to sell a car. On the plus side you will have a very desirable low milegage vehicle when you come to sell it on. With such a long wait for eoss (is that the plural?) you may be able to negotiate a good deal on a petrol eos. Just a suggestion to consider.

David

We have had our Tdi since July last year and done about 13k at the moment. After almost 12 months of ownership no complaints about the engine whatsoever. Economy is good (more mpg with the roof up than down) plenty fast enough, will keep up with most cars on the motorway. Sure you sometimes know its a diesel but the noise is not too intrusive. Had one or two creaks and groans from the roof and a couple of leaky episodes with the boot but hopefully all sorted now. (customer service at our local dealer not too hot but thats another story) Anyway, overall very pleased with the car and would recommend to anyone.

We have had our Tdi since July last year and done about 13k at the moment. After almost 12 months of ownership no complaints about the engine whatsoever. Economy is good (more mpg with the roof up than down) plenty fast enough, will keep up with most cars on the motorway. Sure you sometimes know its a diesel but the noise is not too intrusive. Had one or two creaks and groans from the roof and a couple of leaky episodes with the boot but hopefully all sorted now. (customer service at our local dealer not too hot but thats another story) Anyway, overall very pleased with the car and would recommend to anyone.



Dealer's customer service not too hot? Now where have I heard that before?