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eos 4 me
11-14-2007, 08:31 AM
Ordered an eos with individual pack which comes with 18 in wheels .I wonder what tyres other people with 18 in wheels are getting from factory .If there is option what are thought to be best?I place handling and grip above ride as priorities

Tintin
11-14-2007, 01:01 PM
Ordered an eos with individual pack which comes with 18 in wheels .I wonder what tyres other people with 18 in wheels are getting from factory .If there is option what are thought to be best?I place handling and grip above ride as priorities

I have tried different brands on different sizes and have always preferred Michelin. They tend to be slightly more expensive but they have a superb grip and give you a terrific road handling. I used to like Pirellis but also they do have a good grip, they did not last as long. My Michelin Pilot Sport behaved very well in the wet too. And the cherry on the cake was the fact that they were quieter than any other tyres I have had before.

Hope it helps.

:)

versaceto
02-08-2008, 03:51 PM
I also ordered my EOS with the INDIVIDUAL pack and it comes with:
18" VERACRUZ 8Jx18 rims
CONTINENTAL 235/40/18 tyres

Tintin
03-01-2008, 11:38 AM
I have the original Continental Sport tyres on my 17 inch Westwood wheels and have done over 16 000 miles. I need to replace my front pair.

I am thinking Bridgestone RE050A or Michelin Primacy HP?

What do people think?

:confused:

Stephb
03-02-2008, 09:23 PM
my car has continetals on too and i have chicago alloys but i prefer michelin tyres instead

Steph xx

neh321
03-03-2008, 08:31 AM
I have the original Continental Sport tyres on my 17 inch Westwood wheels and have done over 16 000 miles. I need to replace my front pair.

I am thinking Bridgestone RE050A or Michelin Primacy HP?

What do people think?

:confused:

I've just swapped my 2nd set of Bridgestones at the front for Continentals - trying to get something that lasts a bit longer (only 10000 miles from those Bridgestones).

Tintin
03-03-2008, 12:20 PM
Michelin it is then (the Primacy HP are supposed to last an extra 25%).

neh321
03-03-2008, 12:46 PM
Michelin it is then (the Primacy HP are supposed to last an extra 25%).

Probably a good move. Longevity is one of Michelins' strengths.

cb391
03-03-2008, 03:10 PM
Just curious. I notice you are not getting good mileage out of your tires. Are you getting softer compounds in the tires or is it the type of road surfaces you have? Do you do tire rotations and if so at what mileage points? I have Michelins on mine and have done a rotation at 10k miles and they still look pretty nice. My other car gets rotations about 6k miles apart from my tire dealer.

KEVINP
03-03-2008, 06:01 PM
I have an EOS individual and it came with Michelins as did my R32

evolvingpowercat
03-03-2008, 06:56 PM
My US 2007 EoS VIN in 30K range with 18" came with Pirelli 95H M+S All Seasons. They seem to be a pretty soft tire compound they stick to wet pavement really well.

neh321
03-04-2008, 09:09 AM
Just curious. I notice you are not getting good mileage out of your tires. Are you getting softer compounds in the tires or is it the type of road surfaces you have? Do you do tire rotations and if so at what mileage points? I have Michelins on mine and have done a rotation at 10k miles and they still look pretty nice. My other car gets rotations about 6k miles apart from my tire dealer.

I've done just coming up to 26000 miles and the new tyres I got a few weeks ago are the 3rd pair of front tyres.

I haven't actually rotated them, no; I usually do but the speed at which these have worn down have frankly taken me by surprise a bit and by the time I've thought about rotating there's no tread left..

There is a lot of power going through those front wheels and I do enjoy a fast car.. On the other hand the traction control should stop any wheelspin so you'd think that would help.

I'll see how the Continentals do. Maybe it's just that the Bridgestones are a bit too soft for so much power on UK surfaces.

cb391
03-04-2008, 03:53 PM
Still, I would suggest rotating the tires every 5-7k miles if your tire store will do it at little or no cost. You spread the wear out evenly among all the tires. When you finally get to the point where you need tires, you can get 4 identical tires. This can be a safety factor as mixing brands/types of tires could cause handling issues. Another thing they have been pushing here, is tire age. If all you do is change front tires the rears can age and start to dry out. This makes the tires unsafe. Even with traction control a heavy foot is still going to cause tire spin and increased tire wear. I have 14k miles on my Michelins and have done one rotation so far. Don't know what you are paying for your tires, but to replace the Michelins on my Eos are $205 per tire plus tax, mounting and balancing, and a disposal fee. This total could end up close to $250 USD and this through a tire store.

sia555
03-04-2008, 04:04 PM
I've got 18s with Dunlop Sport SP01 tyres on and have so far got 19000 miles out of the front set without rotating them (there's probably about 2 - 3 mm left on them).

Most of those are motorway miles. I don't tend to hang about so off the motorways there's a fair bit of spinning gone on them from my heavy right foot.

Cheers,
Si

neh321
03-05-2008, 08:03 AM
Still, I would suggest rotating the tires every 5-7k miles if your tire store will do it at little or no cost. You spread the wear out evenly among all the tires. When you finally get to the point where you need tires, you can get 4 identical tires. This can be a safety factor as mixing brands/types of tires could cause handling issues. Another thing they have been pushing here, is tire age. If all you do is change front tires the rears can age and start to dry out. This makes the tires unsafe. Even with traction control a heavy foot is still going to cause tire spin and increased tire wear. I have 14k miles on my Michelins and have done one rotation so far. Don't know what you are paying for your tires, but to replace the Michelins on my Eos are $205 per tire plus tax, mounting and balancing, and a disposal fee. This total could end up close to $250 USD and this through a tire store.




You're right, I should rotate them and will try to do so when I replace the rears (by putting the new ones on the front). I'm reluctant to put brand new tyres on the rear and 3/4 worn ones on the front!

So far I think I'm still on the original rears (I can't exactly remember!) but don't think ageing will be a problem within under 2 years.

The Bridgestones replacements I got were £98 each plus VAT and the Continentals £110 plus VAT (17.5%)

cb391
03-05-2008, 05:50 PM
As I recall the replace by dating is 5 or 6 years. You will probably have replaced those rear tires by then. I think when you replace two tires, the new tires go up front on a front wheel drive car. The tire store should know.

Tintin
03-06-2008, 12:42 PM
I think the tyre manucfacturers make recommendations as to whether to put the new tyres at the front or at the back. The latest trend with Michelin, Pirellis etc is to move the rear ones at the front and the new ones at the back. For info, I am getting a pair of Michelin Primacy HP 235/45 R17 97 W for £240.00 all in, which I did not think was too bad.

neh321
03-06-2008, 12:51 PM
I think the tyre manucfacturers make recommendations as to whether to put the new tyres at the front or at the back. The latest trend with Michelin, Pirellis etc is to move the rear ones at the front and the new ones at the back. For info, I am getting a pair of Michelin Primacy HP 235/45 R17 97 W for £240.00 all in, which I did not think was too bad.

Yes, I've seen that advice too Tintin but I can't bring myself to do it. Previous advice was always to have the best tyres on the wheels that do the most driving and the most braking hence need the best grip, i.e. the front. Not sure why they say you should put them on the back now. Maybe so that you need another pair of their tyres (on the front) in a very short time...

cb391
03-06-2008, 04:28 PM
Just thought this might help clear things up a little. Changes my thoughts somewhat...

Bald or nearly tires do not give good traction in rain or snow conditions. Period. Putting them on the rear axle is only going to make you more likely to suffer a violent spin out followed by a horrible fiery crash when the rear tires lose traction but the fronts are still gripping. Tires with the best tread should actually be on the rear axle. The entire tire industry and ALL tire manufacturers are in agreement on this. In fact, a few weeks ago Michelin got sued successfully for $35 million because one of its shops put 2 new tires on a car, put them on the front axle then the car spun out in the rain and turned a passenger into a quadraplegic.

bneeos
03-06-2008, 09:03 PM
The Eos is front wheel drive most of the braking effort is on the front. I can't believe that having bald tyres on the front is less of hazard than bald tyres on the rears. Even on my 4WD the best tyres are recommended for the front.

neh321
03-07-2008, 08:16 AM
Just thought this might help clear things up a little. Changes my thoughts somewhat...

Bald or nearly tires do not give good traction in rain or snow conditions. Period. Putting them on the rear axle is only going to make you more likely to suffer a violent spin out followed by a horrible fiery crash when the rear tires lose traction but the fronts are still gripping. Tires with the best tread should actually be on the rear axle. The entire tire industry and ALL tire manufacturers are in agreement on this. In fact, a few weeks ago Michelin got sued successfully for $35 million because one of its shops put 2 new tires on a car, put them on the front axle then the car spun out in the rain and turned a passenger into a quadraplegic.

I'm sure they've done lots of research and know what they're talking about, but it's very hard to get the back out of line on a front wheel drive car and can't say I've ever managed it without using the handbrake (not on public roads!)

bneeos
03-07-2008, 11:33 AM
ABS, brake distribution systems etc may change the old rules. But then again with these systems it should make no difference.

cb391
03-07-2008, 03:06 PM
This is true IF the brakes work perfectly. Sometimes brakes don't always react the way they should. I have had instances where this has happened usually when braking hard at speeds above 40 mph. One brake will lag slightly and the car dives to one side. If the rear tires don't stick, the car could go around. If you have a slippery road, the car would be even more prone to do so.

bneeos
03-08-2008, 05:17 AM
Its great to alive. You learn something new every day.;)
I never have kept a set of tyres past their half life. I buy soft grippy tyres, never buy a tyre for its mileage. Cheap life insurance.