[jmm6002]

Hey all--

My EOS has been nothing but a money pit, but it finally happened. Something with the timing chain and my engine--- no oil on the stick when it was towed to the 2nd opinion. Mechanic says that it needs a new engine completely, on top of whatever else may be lurking (they didn't want to charge me more than 1 hour eval because they saw this and said, "well fuck."

So what do I do? It is cosmetically perfect. I have used the VW krytox lubricant on the roof every oil change. It just seems like such a waste to walk away from it. The mechanic is also a dealer and offered me $500 to relieve me, but the roof alone with all the parts has to be 3x that amount.

Any suggestions? I loved my little EOS and took care of it. I had to replace the water pump 3 weeks in and the problems just never stopped coming.

j

 

[jmm6002]

Help?

 

[2phast]

You could grab a engine from a wrecked car and install it. That is most likely what the dealer was going to do, seems these TDI motors are roughly $1500. Of course, you would have to pay labor.

Your other option is to have yours rebuilt, you would have to figure out what is the best priced option.

Last option is to take the car back and put it up for sale, you would get way more than $500 selling it as-is. If you have the space, you could strip the car and sell off all the individual parts, this maximizes your profit as most cars are worth more in parts than as a whole

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[doregan]

Help?

Find an independent, well regarded shop (or shops) that specializes in VW and get an estimate fo an engine replacement or rebuild. Then go punch the dealer for offering you $500.

 

[cb391]

How is it that someone in the US has a diesel (TDI)? Does he really have a TSI? In any event he needs an engine. But how do you run an engine out of oil? TSI engines don't have a history of oil use. But they did have a history of timing chain tensioner problems.

 

[EosSydney]

How is it that someone in the US has a diesel (TDI)? Does he really have a TSI? In any event he needs an engine. But how do you run an engine out of oil? TSI engines don't have a history of oil use. But they did have a history of timing chain tensioner problems.

S and D are adjacent on the keyboard, probably fat fingers!

TSI engines do tend to use a bit of oil but nowhere near enough to cause an engine to self destruct if checked with any sort of regularity.

From what has been posted, a second hand engine seems to be the best solution but we're a bit short of detail in regards the actual situation with the OP's engine.

 

[voxmagna]

If there was no oil there would be no oil level or pressure and a dash warning would be lit. If oil use was high the engine should have been smoking badly? Scenario: The timing chain had failed (It IS a chain and not a belt?). The first mechanic did the correct thing, drained the oil and checked it for metal fragments, or was miffed it was going for a second opinion? With no chain it would never be started and there would be no further damage with no oil in the sump.

IMHO The second opinion mechanic in 1 hour found no oil on the dipstick and assumed that was the cause of the blown engine. Without further work to lift the cylinder head, the OP won't know if the timing chain damaged has caused superficial or extensive damage requiring a new engine. I doubt it just 'Ran out of Oil' without a dash warning.

I had to replace the water pump 3 weeks in and the problems just never stopped coming.

One has to wonder? That's a workshop operation needing care, not like a DIY spark plug change. Anybody going that far would sensibly have looked at the timing parts, particularly the tensioner. DIYers aren't experienced which is why you pay what appears to be a lot of money to a dealer but they may know of improved or modified parts. Water pump leaks = Replace water pump and look no further isn't what you do.

 

[stanwebber]

i had the same thing happen to me. 1.8t engine with 70k miles started misfiring. i took it to a garage and they say cylinder 4 has no compression and recommend an engine replacement. what the hell?!

i ask what compression did the other cylinders register (especially 3)? um, we didn't write that down. i paid my $110 "1hr diagnostic fee" and got the hell out of there.

 

[voxmagna]

Unfortunately many have to trust what their garages tell them just like going to the doctor. The problem of misdiagnosis gets worse as your car gets older because they have a mindset your old car must have grenaded in some form because everybody else is driving cars that are less than 3 years old! I get this problem getting MY07 tested each year - a car that old MUST fail on something. You also find there are very few garage techs. now that have experience dismantling a modern car engine and repairing it. That's because it involves skilled labor and the outcome after thorough inspection could still be a totalled engine and too expensive to repair.

The relatively simple operations in situations like this are 1. Remove the timing cover and inspect. 2. Remove the oil sump and inspect 3. Remove the cylinder head and inspect (valves, valve gear, camshafts, piston crowns etc). For somebody reasonably familiar with the engine it should be about 3-4 hours work and of course you don't put anything back if the damage is beyond repair.

You find out what your car is worth at market prices, consider what it is worth to you and risk throwing 3-4 hours labor at it to confirm if a repair is viable, or get it towed away to sell for scrap or spare parts.

 

[SALBERS]

The solution is simple. Have a VW dealer with an EOS CERTIFIED mechanic swap out the engine with a warranted exchange and get your car back on the road within a week.

 

[voxmagna]

I bet that will be expensive at Stealer labor rates when the OP doesn't know what's really wrong with the present engine? The car is 10 years old and a replacement engine and fitting will cost more than the car is worth. A V.W dealership should be tops for their work and honouring a warranty, but they don't need to be EOS roof certified to swap an engine which should be within the skillset of a non V.W dealer specialising in V.W/Audi repairs. A good used engine would probably be the best option if the old engine really is grenaded. It doesn't have to come from an EOS if they keep the old ECU.

 

[Cloud_Runner]

Hey all--

My EOS has been nothing but a money pit, but it finally happened. Something with the timing chain and my engine--- no oil on the stick when it was towed to the 2nd opinion. Mechanic says that it needs a new engine completely, on top of whatever else may be lurking (they didn't want to charge me more than 1 hour eval because they saw this and said, "well fuck."

So what do I do? It is cosmetically perfect. I have used the VW krytox lubricant on the roof every oil change. It just seems like such a waste to walk away from it. The mechanic is also a dealer and offered me $500 to relieve me, but the roof alone with all the parts has to be 3x that amount.

Any suggestions? I loved my little EOS and took care of it. I had to replace the water pump 3 weeks in and the problems just never stopped coming.

j

I’m dealing with a similar scenario. What did you end up doing? I deciding if an engine repair is worth the money.