[Maggieham]

My lovely 2007 EOS Sport T FSI I have owned for 20 months and spent £3500 replacing faults, the latest a new cam belt , just to be informed that the offside engine mount has broken off. The car is in immaculate mechanical order with new roof motor last year amongst many other replacements. I have done 2000 miles since purchase and now has 62000 on clock. Automatic, petrol. Any suggestions to avoid replacing the engine, thanks.

 

[voxmagna]

Never heard of that and it's a serious fault? Who did the cambelt, has somebody put a jack under the engine to get more clearance to change the belt, or a tire changer has put a jack in the wrong place? Are the 'dogbone' engine mount bushes worn on the transmission, are the exhaust bolt clamps tight? Some engine cambelt change procedures require an engine mounting to be loosened or removed to allow the engine to be tilted giving more access to the side. It's very tempting to cut corners and jack the side without doing anything to the engine mounting?

There's probably an engine casing part you can buy, but fitting it might need part of the engine replaced? Try to establish the cause & if it's one of the above? I would have expected something to be unusual about the way the car drove?

 

[Maggieham]

Never heard of that and it's a serious fault? Who did the cambelt, has somebody put a jack under the engine to get more clearance to change the belt, or a tire changer has put a jack in the wrong place? Are the 'dogbone' engine mount bushes worn on the transmission, are the exhaust bolt clamps tight? Some engine cambelt change procedures require an engine mounting to be loosened or removed to allow the engine to be tilted giving more access to the side. It's very tempting to cut corners and jack the side without doing anything to the engine mounting?

There's probably an engine casing part you can buy, but fitting it might need part of the engine replaced? Try to establish the cause & if it's one of the above? I would have expected something to be unusual about the way the car drove?

Thanks for your reply, there is no way the garage is at fault but the car was sold to me by a very unscrupulous dealer who disappeared hence having spent so much on rectifying damage. The car drives very smoothly with no vibrations or shuddering and I am now at a loss what to do , very distressing.

 

[voxmagna]

Get a garage estimate?

 

[Maggieham]

They are recommending a new engine at a cost out of my reach 😥😥

 

[cb391]

Find another shop, one that specializes in VW repairs. There has to be some repair other than a whole engine.

 

[voxmagna]

The OP can get a V.W dealer to look at their parts list for this engine, but asking for a repair estimate is easier? The question for this engine: Is the RH engine mount a bolt on part easily replaced, or is it made integral with an engine casing part? If the former, relax, if the latter a significant part of the engine may need to be replaced . If it's the main engine block, a complete engine used or otherwise is required = car probably beyond economic repair.

If a garage isn't at fault and has been working on the car they can tell the OP whether the engine mount is replaceable or is part of a larger more expensive engine component?

In UK the annual test would fail this car for a broken engine mounting and it wouldn't legally be allowed on the road. It's sad to see a car with a serious problem like this. A close examination of the shear/tear/break/ would show how it might have happened. It doesn't look like a single fracture, manufacturing defect, or corrosion, from the photos, which is why I think it's been damage by bad workshop practice or suffered an impact of some kind?

 

[Maggieham]

The OP can get a V.W dealer to look at their parts list for this engine, but asking for a repair estimate is easier? The question for this engine: Is the RH engine mount a bolt on part easily replaced, or is it made integral with an engine casing part? If the former, relax, if the latter a significant part of the engine may need to be replaced . If it's the main engine block, a complete engine used or otherwise is required = car probably beyond economic repair.

If a garage isn't at fault and has been working on the car they can tell the OP whether the engine mount is replaceable or is part of a larger more expensive engine component?

In UK the annual test would fail this car for a broken engine mounting and it wouldn't legally be allowed on the road. It's sad to see a car with a serious problem like this. A close examination of the shear/tear/break/ would show how it might have happened. It doesn't look like a single fracture, manufacturing defect, or corrosion, from the photos, which is why I think it's been damage by bad workshop practice or suffered an impact of some kind?

Thank you so much, unfortunately is part of the engine casing, as I said I was conned by an unscrupulous dealer, my fault, looks like I will need to scrap the car 🥲🥲

 

[voxmagna]

Sorry, that's really sad. The age and mileage isn't in your favor either. You may find somebody or an enthusiast in UK with a bad EOS roof who can take your car and offer you more for parts than a scrap yard if the roof system is good. Try that first. Even a good on the road 2007 EOS isn't worth more than £3k when I last looked.

 

[Maggieham]

Sorry, that's really sad. The age and mileage isn't in your favor either. You may find somebody or an enthusiast in UK with a bad EOS roof who can take your car and offer you more for parts than a scrap yard if the roof system is good. Try that first. Even a good on the road 2007 EOS isn't worth more than £3k when I last looked.

Thank you for all your support, I will list it on ebay with all new parts 🙏🙏

 

[voxmagna]

Some good EOS parts are hard to find and expensive. E.g A new genuine VW roof pump could sell for over £250 and a genuine good sunroof motor is expensive.

I bet anything somebody would have a go at welding the engine mount, or even try to part exchange it, because the bad mount won't easily be spotted as you have found out.

 

[DuncanCat]

The other option is that there is a VW Eos owners forum on Facebook. There's a member of the forum who breaks EOSs and sells the parts. Might be worthwhile seeing if he would be interested and what he would give you for the car.

 

[Maggieham]

The other option is that there is a VW Eos owners forum on Facebook. There's a member of the forum who breaks EOSs and sells the parts. Might be worthwhile seeing if he would be interested and what he would give you for the car.

Thank you will have a look

 

[stevef99]

My lovely 2007 EOS Sport T FSI I have owned for 20 months and spent £3500 replacing faults, the latest a new cam belt , just to be informed that the offside engine mount has broken off. The car is in immaculate mechanical order with new roof motor last year amongst many other replacements. I have done 2000 miles since purchase and now has 62000 on clock. Automatic, petrol. Any suggestions to avoid replacing the engine, thanks.

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I repaired cars for over 30 years - I would agree that someone has applied a jack at the wrong place. A jack has been placed under the engine and force applied which has been taking the weight of the entire car. I cannot imagine any other scenario that would break a heavy cast part as shown in your photograph.

 

[stevef99]

My lovely 2007 EOS Sport T FSI I have owned for 20 months and spent £3500 replacing faults, the latest a new cam belt , just to be informed that the offside engine mount has broken off. The car is in immaculate mechanical order with new roof motor last year amongst many other replacements. I have done 2000 miles since purchase and now has 62000 on clock. Automatic, petrol. Any suggestions to avoid replacing the engine, thanks.

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Further to my previous msg. Perhaps the engine has been removed from a car that suffered very serious collision damage and has been installed in your car. Does the engine number match the documentation?

 

[DuncanCat]

Further to my previous msg. Perhaps the engine has been removed from a car that suffered very serious collision damage and has been installed in your car. Does the engine number match the documentation?

The suggestion of an engine swap seems very unlikely as given the length of time OP has owned the car it would have needed at least one MOT.

 

[Ron X]

My lovely 2007 EOS Sport T FSI I have owned for 20 months and spent £3500 replacing faults, the latest a new cam belt , just to be informed that the offside engine mount has broken off. The car is in immaculate mechanical order with new roof motor last year amongst many other replacements. I have done 2000 miles since purchase and now has 62000 on clock. Automatic, petrol. Any suggestions to avoid replacing the engine, thanks.

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I have owned a smash repair shop in Australia. i have seen this happen when a front wheel drive car has a front end hit. Mounts are usually just behind the radiator So can take a lot of the impact. we had a local specialist weld them back on but we did have to pull the engine out. Maybe speak to some of the local panel shops and ask if they know anyone or google. Hope this helps.

 

[voxmagna]

Good point and the OP should be looking for any signs of accident damage or repairs? A TIG welder can do a lot and make it stronger than original if the ali base metal is good quality and weldable (?). But as you say, the engine would have to be lifted and parts around the engine casing removed leaving the short block. After inspection of the repair location it may be possible to leave some engine parts in-situ, although some cast ali needs pre-heating prior to welding.

Before starting this journey I would want to know if there was any evidence of accident damage and long term consequences, either through title, a paper trail or a careful inspection and what effect that could have e.g wheel alignment, uneven tire wear etc. I suppose the good news if any is engine removal and repair should be within the capability of a cheaper independent shop?

I wouldn't think somebody would go to the trouble of swapping a good engine for bad but I agree, check the engine number and VIN against the title paperwork. You have probably seen all the tricks that car ringers get up to.