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Putting a car in a space or room and refrigerating it down to 20 costs a lot in energy. They wouldn't like getting themselves cold working in there either! That's when they really mean they have given up or if they actually said that, they haven't a clue how to diagnose a V.W engine or have access to parts lists, wiring diagrams, understand V.W technical information and look up parts just like members here might do? They've given up on your car!

Gearslam said: Get the right tuning shop who work with V.Ws and Audis (even Porsche and Mercs) and they should at least understand the complex workings of Efi engines. They won't have the freezer shop, but I'm sure they can find or buy a cylinder of refrigerant gas for $75 to blast around suspect modules and much cheaper than putting the car in a cold room. I can buy a small can of aircon top up gas on Fleabay for less than that! I'm surprised they didn't suggest loaning you diagnostics with remote wireless telemetry back to base and get you driving to the North Pole. You would take Husky dogs and a sled in the back, in case the car wouldn't start to get you back to town. :)
Vox, I am giving up on them. The only reason I had taken the car in the first place was because when I had purchased the car, the dealer I got it from, not VW, said they could not work on the car due to they did not have a knowledgable VW mechanic in house and that I would have to take it down the street from them, current VW shop, for repairs, at that point they informed me they had a couple techs that went to school for the EOS due to all the issues with the earlier models. A reputable dealer.....if theres such a thing. But they are not close to me and is a trip each time I have to have anything taken care of. I have another VW dealer thats right around the corner, so why continue? If I had known, I was told when the dealer you purchase a car from refuses to repair an issue, such as check engine, I was told they may have to buy back your car due to drivability concerns with licensing it when it may or may not pass emissions test. It didn't work in my favor due to timing of when the fault occurred. The law in CO states they must fix it due to the necessary licensing requirements. In the meantime I found out the car was 2 years past the allowed age of the vehicle to enforce it.
so I will find me a little specialty shop when it gets cold again. Other than this issue the car runs nice. Enjoyable with the top down. I do appreciate the input, even the sarcastic ones! :)
 

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I agree you've reached the end of the line, but not your fault. The EOS roof system is really the only specialist area where V.W dealers might decline or turn you away. But your engine, chassis, suspension and other similar parts are used in lots of VAG group models sold in the States and definitely not unique. I read you have a lot of Golfs and Passats so this dealer doesn't seem to have the training or competence to repair the brand? Except for the tuning specialists, very few shops fully understand these engines and there's a tendency to use V.W 'guided fault finding' algorithms, then replace parts hoping for a solution which is a very expensive strategy for you, with no guaranteed end solution.

Research your local tuning shops and talk to them even when it's warm. Those that are helpful, seem knowledgeable and can suggest ways of provoking a low ambient temperature fault may be those to try. Just be careful with those sounding confident on the sales side who want to learn on your car as long as you pay the bill.
 

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I agree you've reached the end of the line, but not your fault. The EOS roof system is really the only specialist area where V.W dealers might decline or turn you away. But your engine, chassis, suspension and other similar parts are used in lots of VAG group models sold in the States and definitely not unique. I read you have a lot of Golfs and Passats so this dealer doesn't seem to have the training or competence to repair the brand? Except for the tuning specialists, very few shops fully understand these engines and there's a tendency to use V.W 'guided fault finding' algorithms, then replace parts hoping for a solution which is a very expensive strategy for you, with no guaranteed end solution.

Research your local tuning shops and talk to them even when it's warm. Those that are helpful, seem knowledgeable and can suggest ways of provoking a low ambient temperature fault may be those to try. Just be careful with those sounding confident on the sales side who want to learn on your car as long as you pay the bill.
No, where I bought the car, Ford Dealer has no expertise when it comes to VW. The dealer who's worked on the car does have specialist in the field of the tops. Which is nice to know. I hope I never find out what it takes to fix one.! I see a lot of these in Florida. They all say top not working.......these re the older models. You either got a good one or a lemon....
 

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The lemons are the owners who know nada and aren't prepared to give them TLC or get something done when water leaks first appear.
 
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