[zchristian1]

Hi all,

I test drove a 2009 Eos last week and loved it. I had never seen one in person until 3 weeks ago when I pulled up along side a 2007 and had a quick conversation with the driver. He loved his and raved about it for the minute we were both at the light. The looks and retractable hard top were huge selling points for me.

Since then, I have been doing some research reading reviews and user posts. I was disturbed by the reports of 1. bad leaks and 2. the oil burning. Are these the exceptions or the rules? Do most people carry extra oil and add it every 1,000 miles? That reminds me of my old 1970 Karmann Ghia

At the Edmunds Car Forums I read:
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f113ca0

I also read reviews at:
http://www.kbb.com/KBB/NewCars/Cons...tExpression=3&SelectedTabIndex=1&PageIndex=16

If anyone has had problems with leaks, I found a very interesting article about lubrication that is worth the time:
http://www.golden-hind.com/eos/EOS_ROOF_SEALS.pdf

Thanks in advance for any insight.

 

[Lucid Nonsense]

When talking about oil use issues, it's important to differentiate between engines. The older 2.0T FSI "BPY" engines installed until MY 2008 are likely the source of most oil use reports. The new 2.0T TSI "CCTA" or "CBFA" engines installed in MY 2009 (and possibly midway through MY 2008, they were on some VWs), do not seem to burn oil. Just did our first oil change on our 2009 Eos and our TSI engine hadn't lost a drop, although admittedly it's only been driven 1200 miles.

Other improvements in the TSI motor include a timing chain vice belt, and an easy to change top-mounted oil filter.

If you're buying a new 2009 Eos in the U.S., you'll get the TSI, as it's the only motor now offered. If you buy used, it's really easy to determine if a 2.0T Eos has it - "TSI" is emblazoned on the plastic engine cover.

The later model Eos don't seem to have as many top leak issues, but nonetheless when we bought ours I paid for the VW extended warranty just in case! Ours hasn't leaked a bit.

 

[rcboater]

I bought my 2009 in May-- it has 2600 miles on it. So far, it hasn't used any oil.

 

[MarkAlan]

If youʻve followed this car since itʻs inception, you will find relatively few leak issues that have required unusual means for a solution. Iʻve had no leaks since I bought the car 1.5 years ago. The seals have been lubricated 3 times since purchase.

As far as oil is concerned, this is my 2nd 2.0 FSI ʻBPYʻ engine, both for about just over 20,000 miles and have had not oil loss.....so no, I donʻt carry around extra oil in the trunk. For both cars, I just followed the manualʻs break-in procedure.

 

[SiJ2000]

I have a 2007 with 2.0 FSI Turbo and doesn't burn oil... It's not a fundanmental issue... Like any car, some do, some don't... Also roof issues are pretty rare statistically.

They seem common, as when people have them, they look for a forum to moan on!

 

[cb391]

I would love to be one of those who don't use oil. I use a quart about every 4kmiles. I would like to know the secret of no oil loss, but I just write it off as part of using the car. I have had several new cars and take fairly good care of them. I have never had a car get more than 3k miles per quart. This is the first car I've had that requires full synthetic. All my others have routinely been down a quart at oil change time which is 3k miles. As for the leaks I have had one minor leak after 33 months. The leak will hopefully go away once I put the special lubricant on. I haven't used it as often as I should.

 

[Doolallygirl]

I have a 2007 with 2.0 FSI Turbo and doesn't burn oil... It's not a fundanmental issue... Like any car, some do, some don't... Also roof issues are pretty rare statistically.

They seem common, as when people have them, they look for a forum to moan on!

Is that a dig at me Si?!

I haven't had any oil issues whatsoever. I've had a MAJOR leak issue but obviously not so major I jacked it in! I had new carpets and underlay and mats fitted in my car and as I bought mine second hand I can only assume this is because the previous owner didn't look after the seals properly and keep them lubricated.

What Simon says is true, how many times have you called somewhere to compliment them on good things compared to how many times you have registered a complaint?! The bad things often outweigh the good as we are all so happy with our Eos's we don't have time to compliment them enough!!

I wouldn't change mine for the world now. I'm extremely happy with it (albeit for the first time in a year since I bought it!).

I wouldn't think twice about buying another should the need arise.

 

[SiJ2000]

Nicely put

I spent some of the weekend cleaning and lubricating the seals... Was very theraputic! Normally, I just lube them, but cleaning was so easy with some Methylated Spirit and a MicroFibre cloth! They were shining and then lubed them... Great!

Needless to say, I love the car with affection unspeakable!

 

[ransx77]

If anyone has had problems with leaks, I found a very interesting article about lubrication that is worth the time:
http://www.golden-hind.com/eos/EOS_ROOF_SEALS.pdf

I love the way this guy approachs problems and documents resolutions. Any idea if there is a library of VW resolutions by this guy?

 

[agird]

My 08 2.0 FSI Turbo was low on oil (down to fill on the dipstick) after about 3,000 miles from new. I'm glad I didn't wait until the 10,000 mile service, the thing would ahve been empty!

 

[neh321]

My 08 2.0 FSI Turbo was low on oil (down to fill on the dipstick) after about 3,000 miles from new. I'm glad I didn't wait until the 10,000 mile service, the thing would ahve been empty!

Don't worry; a light on the dashboard would have told you it needed a top-up!

 

[genusloci]

strangely i have never filled up with Oil ..check it regular ! yes it has had services but nothing in-between and i have never experienced a leak !

i have never treated the seals !!! maybe i should .. before i go away next week.. knowing my luck it will rain.

 

[neh321]

strangely i have never filled up with Oil ..check it regular ! yes it has had services but nothing in-between and i have never experienced a leak !

i have never treated the seals !!! maybe i should .. before i go away next week.. knowing my luck it will rain.

The TDIs don't use oil like the T-FSIs do!

 

[nail-z-gull]

I've never had to add a drop either. Quite annoyed really, as I bought a litre as soon as I got the car as I heard they could be thirsty. It's still sitting in my garage gathering dust.

She's nearly 3 years old now, and covered 24k miles. Obviously the oil has been changed at each service interval, but that's all.

 

[SiJ2000]

My Turbo FSI never needs a top up either!

 

[justcarkits]

Oil usage ?
Bought a 5 litre top up when car was new and still got over half left.
Did a gentle run-in when new up to about 5,000 miles and car has been serviced once. Engine used a bit of oil in the initial run-in period and after that so little it's hardly worth checking (but still do every week). Relying on the low oil warning light to check level will result in an expensive repair bill.
EOS has now done 32,000 miles and does not use oil to any noticeable extent.

Leaks - get a slight drip from front A-Pillar driver's side, but then again have never lubricated the seals (yes, I know...). Will get around to it..

 

[glib]

eos experience

I've had my Eos since Sept. 2007...never had a leak and never had any problems with oil burning or anything else. Love the car!

Hi all,

I test drove a 2009 Eos last week and loved it. I had never seen one in person until 3 weeks ago when I pulled up along side a 2007 and had a quick conversation with the driver. He loved his and raved about it for the minute we were both at the light. The looks and retractable hard top were huge selling points for me.

Since then, I have been doing some research reading reviews and user posts. I was disturbed by the reports of 1. bad leaks and 2. the oil burning. Are these the exceptions or the rules? Do most people carry extra oil and add it every 1,000 miles? That reminds me of my old 1970 Karmann Ghia

At the Edmunds Car Forums I read:
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f113ca0

I also read reviews at:
http://www.kbb.com/KBB/NewCars/Cons...tExpression=3&SelectedTabIndex=1&PageIndex=16

If anyone has had problems with leaks, I found a very interesting article about lubrication that is worth the time:
http://www.golden-hind.com/eos/EOS_ROOF_SEALS.pdf

Thanks in advance for any insight.

 

[Doolallygirl]

Is that a dig at me Si?!

I haven't had any oil issues whatsoever. I've had a MAJOR leak issue but obviously not so major I jacked it in! I had new carpets and underlay and mats fitted in my car and as I bought mine second hand I can only assume this is because the previous owner didn't look after the seals properly and keep them lubricated.

What Simon says is true, how many times have you called somewhere to compliment them on good things compared to how many times you have registered a complaint?! The bad things often outweigh the good as we are all so happy with our Eos's we don't have time to compliment them enough!!

I wouldn't change mine for the world now. I'm extremely happy with it (albeit for the first time in a year since I bought it!).

I wouldn't think twice about buying another should the need arise.

I TAKE IT ALL BACK! Leaks returned so it's being rejected now

Want me to drain it of oil first and send it to you? I haven't used or had to buy any since I bought it so at least that's a good thing I guess!

 

[Eosman]

Why do dealers always overfill with oil at services?

I think they drain, look at a capacity chart and pour in, not allowing for the inevitable little bit of old oil left in various nooks and crannies!

If they can't change oil properly then god help us with something that requires a bit of brain (sic) power.

 

[Eosman]

I TAKE IT ALL BACK! Leaks returned so it's being rejected now

Want me to drain it of oil first and send it to you? I haven't used or had to buy any since I bought it so at least that's a good thing I guess!

Oh dear me, Doolallygirl!

Can you actually see where the water is leaking in?

If so, surely it can be sorted.

Or, is it a case of water getting in but you haven't a clue where it is coming from?