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Unfortunately I live in Buffalo NY and am unable to purchase an Eos with the 2.0 Diesel engine in it.

As I understand it the drive-trains on these vehicles meet the US DOT emission requirements and are only unavailable based on a "marketing" decision. I was told by my dealer that the diesel will never be considered sports cars in the US market.

I am exploring what hoops I need to jump through to import a diesel Eos to the US.

Anyone out there have any information that could help? My dealer and VW USA don't seem at all interested in figuring this out.

Thanks all!

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I’m going to give you an overview of how to import a car into the USA and some agencies you should contact for more information.

The key is to work with a Registered Importer who has experience with modifying vehicles not manufactured to USA regulations to meet the USA EPA and DOT regulations - or providing certification that the regulations are met.

This can be expensive, the gas you save will never pay back the many thousands of dollars you will spend to import the vehicle that was not manufacturer certified to meet USA standards.

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You need to set up a way to ship the vehicle. You need to know the
arrival date so Customs can clear the car for entry into the US.
“Shipments are cleared at the first port of entry unless you arrange
for a freight forwarder abroad to have the vehicle sent in bond to a
Customs port more convenient to you.”

You will need the Shipper or carrier’s original Bill of Lading, the
Bill of Sale, the Foreign Registration, and any other documents
pertaining to the vehicle. You also need written prior approval from
the EPA (Environmental Protection Agency) Prior approval can come in
the form of an approval letter from the EPA, or a manufacturer's label
in the English language affixed to the car, stating that the vehicle
meets all U.S. emission requirements

You can also use a ICI (Independent Commercial Importer). ICIs can
only import certain types of vehicles, however, and in general, their
fees are very high. I would only recommend this if you’re REALLY
unsure of doing this on your own and can afford it.

http://www.foreignborn.com/visas_imm/entering_us/7importingyourcar.htm#safety
(DOT Standards – DOT = Department of Transportation)

http://www.foreignborn.com/visas_imm/entering_us/7importingyourcar.htm#driversplates
(Plates and permits information)

You will need to have the undercarriage cleaned before importing your
car into the US. This is a Dept. of Agriculture Requirement.

You can not ship anything inside the car.

You may be taxed on entry of the car. The average rate is 2.5 % of the
value of the car on the bill of sale.

You must meet safety and bumper standards set by the DOT. You must
file DOT HS-7 ( http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import/hs799short.pdf
) at the time of entry. “Vehicles that do not bear a certification
label attached by the original manufacturer must be entered as a
nonconforming vehicle under a DOT bond for one and a half times the
vehicle's dutiable value. This is in addition to the regular Customs
entry bond.”

You should speak with a DOT Registered Importer (RI) to make sure you
car meets these standards and is eligible for importation.
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import/RiHT0012.html (List of RI’s)

“DOT requires that the vehicle model and model year must, prior to
entry, be determined eligible for importation. A DOT RI can advise you
whether your vehicle is eligible; if it is not, the RI can submit a
petition in your behalf to have your vehicle considered for
eligibility, if you so desire. Understand, however, that fees must be
paid at the time such petitions are filed.”

You must meet emission standards. You may want to find out the state’s
emission standards before you decide to import the vehicle and make
sure your car meets those standards or your willing to pay to have it
converted. You must meet the state and EPA standards both.
“Beginning with the 1974 model year, vehicles that were originally
manufactured to meet U.S. emission requirements, if driven outside the
United States, Canada, Mexico, Japan, Australia, Taiwan or the Bahama
Islands, may be required to have their oxygen sensor and/or catalytic
converter replaced. You may import your U.S.-version vehicle under a
Customs bond and have any qualified mechanic perform the necessary
work. You should contact the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)
directly for detailed requirements and options before shipping your
vehicle.”

http://www.epa.gov/otaq/index.htm (EPA website regarding this topic)
 

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Is it really worth all that hassle to save maximum a few hundred dollars over the life of the car with you?



 

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Randy,

Thanks for the info! A lot of stuff there.

NEH - no prob not worth it. I do make my own bio-diesel so the cost would be a little more bearable. Even still.

But now I wonder if it is possible to have VW special order a diesel engine in a North American Eos. I know there are a few other differences besides gauges, like the bumper and spare tire.

Has anyone any experience with asking VW to do this?

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The only thing I could suggest would be to contact your dealer to see if it is even possible to do that. It would be nice to have an Eos diesel here especially if it is the Bluetec. I don't think that engine is available anywhere in an Eos and would be the only diesel certified for all 50 states. With oil at $123 a barrel this morning, a diesel would be good idea. In a side note it costs more than 1 cent to make a penny and it costs 7 cents to make a nickel.
 

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Your best bet would be to wait for VW to import TDI model Eos to Canada, then buy it from Canada, you save the import from Europe cost and your conversion cost would be more reasonable or perhaps nothing.

I don't know if VW does it anymore but it used to be that they offered more of the fuel efficent TDI engines in the Canada market then they did in the USA market.

My sister bought a Canadian RV a few years back when USA to Canada exchange rates were reverse of what they are now to save $10,000 on cost of the RV and all she had to do was have the instrument cluster changed to the US version to switch from Km to Miles. With Eos this might be able to be done using a VAG-COM with out any hardware changes.

Good luck.
 

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The diesel is superb but I'd check if using Bio-diesel is ok. The handbook specifically prohibits it. Doesn't mean you can’t of course. With regard to diesels not being considered sports cars I think VAG would disagree. There is the possibility of increasing the power output - whether that’s worth it or not is questionable I suppose. Course some people took a lot of persuading the earth wasn’t flat.
 

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Randy,

Thanks for the info! A lot of stuff there.

NEH - no prob not worth it. I do make my own bio-diesel so the cost would be a little more bearable. Even still.

But now I wonder if it is possible to have VW special order a diesel engine in a North American Eos. I know there are a few other differences besides gauges, like the bumper and spare tire.

Has anyone any experience with asking VW to do this?

Eric
In my experience getting VW to deviate even slightly from the specs/options list they officially offer is totally impossible. All ordering/building is computerised and they seem to have no facility for deviating even slightly.

I say this because when I ordered my car (on the first day that orders were taken in March 06!) they wouldn't let me order it with heated screen washer jets (even though there was a winter pack available which included them) because of some conflict in their system when you order leather seats with which you get seat heaters, which are also part of the winter pack which they said you couldn't order because you've already got heated seats with the leather..... All rubbish as we now know of course..

I tried everything possible including emails and letters to VW UK and VW in Germany pointing out how stupid this was (especially as for the Golf there was a separate price when ordering the winter pack and leather which took into account the fact you already have heated seats) and to get them to add this simple little thing to my order but without success. I just gave up in the end. So to get them to build you a car with an engine that's not officially available in your market would, I reckon, be a complete non-starter.



 

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A diesel SEAT won two rounds of the BTCC last weekend.
Yes, things do change.
Only 5 years ago, or probably only 2 years ago, a diesel-powered sports car would have been unthinkable.

But now Audi are bringing out a diesel R8 supercar, and they have already introduced a diesel TT.
A diesel Ferrari is now being talked about in some quarters!

The only thing I don't like about them is their lack of revability. I like to wring the engine out to its maximum and at 5000 rpm you're only just getting going in a petrol whilst you're at max revs in a diesel.



 

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The only thing I don't like about them is their lack of revability
I know what you mean. I'm getting my Golf Plus on Monday and I'm hoping the DSG will ease the pain of the diesel rev issue.
 
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