[comet30]

I have an Eos sport with the 8 speaker system!

This is very loud by itself and would appear to have subs. Can anyone firstly confirm the speaker configuration?

Also, this is loud and very bassy so is the Dynaaudio upgrade really that much better?

 

[Hornet9]

The EOS does not have subs but the standard door speakers are of a decent size, hence the good bass response.

I have listened to 2 EOS's side by side, one with Dynaudio and one without. My opinion only is that the Dynaudio sound is a far superior quality. I am not talking about loudness, just a better reproduction of the original recording. Depends how much you are into your hi-fi, I guess.

Oh, by the way, you cannot upgrade the car to Dynaudio. It is a factory fit as part of the vehicle build, rather than an 'extra'.

Regards,

Ian

 

[monkeymojo]

I am curious as to whether or not it has subs.. Mine has (unless I'm going nuts) three speakers in each door. I figured it was a tweeter, mid and sub...

 

[sydeos]

No you do not have subs.

You have a tweeter, midrange and a woofer. A woofer is the speaker that gives you bass response. A sub woofer is a much larger non-directional speaker that delivers very low frequency bass response.

The four woofers in the Dynaudio system deliver great bass response unless you are from the school that believes bass should cause your internal organs to vibrate

 

[davidp]

Isnt it ten speakers as there are four more in the back on my sport. It all sounds rather good to me even with the lid down.

 

[EOSmage]

Isnt it ten speakers as there are four more in the back on my sport. It all sounds rather good to me even with the lid down.

There are only 8 speakers in the Eos. Only two of the four grills in the back have speakers, the other two are left empty. I suppose the grill was left as a default structure in order to reduce the duplication of parts and to lower the upgrade cost for the Dynaudio system.

If you purchased the Dynaudio upgrade (which isn't available here in Canada) THEN you get 10 speakers. You still DO NOT get a sub since the Eos doesn't have a sub in it anywhere.

The woofers they use are great, and the dynaudio provides an amplifier to each speaker which is supposed to more-accurately reproduce the sounds at low volumes while keeping it crisp at higher volumes.

My system sounds excellent and I have not yet heard a dynaudio so can't compare them. I do get a little distortion when playing at the upper end, but don't do that often enough to care. I don't often play at the really low end of the volume either because I'll usually be talking with passengers so have it off. For me, the stereo is usually sitting around half-way when listening to it. I like it fine.

8 speakers standard. 10 only with dynaudio. That's how it works in the Eos.

 

[davidp]

Thanks eosmage but my setup seems different, (just had to go and check).
In my sport the four rear speakers all work, of the six in the front only the tweater and bass work the middle speaker is silent, looks like there is nothing in it So as you say only eight speakers
I have the RCD500 radio upgrade and confess I am well pleased with the sound quailty and the FM radio is brilliant at holding on to a signal.
Cheers, david

 

[cb391]

As mentioned above the ONLY way VW gives you 10 speakers in an Eos is with the DynAudio option which is a standalone option. It costs $1000 USD. Not sure what it is elsewhere. There is no sub woofer option either.

 

[Pepino]

The only complaint (well, observation really) is my stereo sounds so much better at higher volumes. When it is turned low it just doesn't have that "pop" to it - kinda meshes together. I'm guessing the DynAudio keeps that crisp sound throughout the range. I don't think I'd pay the extra money for it, but it sounds great to me considering my last car was base everything.

 

[davidp]

Heres a thread on a major audio upgrade to an eos.
Looks a bit scary to me!
Enjoy!

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3374451

 

[EosEnthusiastNB]

You have to be a bit over the top to spend 10,000 dollars US on a car stereo. He basically did himself in on trunk space too. I expect he will enjoy it, I will stick with my Dynaudio...love it.

 

[ecavuoto]

There are only 8 speakers in the Eos. Only two of the four grills in the back have speakers, the other two are left empty. I suppose the grill was left as a default structure in order to reduce the duplication of parts and to lower the upgrade cost for the Dynaudio system.

If you purchased the Dynaudio upgrade (which isn't available here in Canada) THEN you get 10 speakers. You still DO NOT get a sub since the Eos doesn't have a sub in it anywhere.

The woofers they use are great, and the dynaudio provides an amplifier to each speaker which is supposed to more-accurately reproduce the sounds at low volumes while keeping it crisp at higher volumes.

My system sounds excellent and I have not yet heard a dynaudio so can't compare them. I do get a little distortion when playing at the upper end, but don't do that often enough to care. I don't often play at the really low end of the volume either because I'll usually be talking with passengers so have it off. For me, the stereo is usually sitting around half-way when listening to it. I like it fine.

8 speakers standard. 10 only with dynaudio. That's how it works in the Eos.

Thanks for the layout info...I have a 2015 Komfort Trim and I was wondering why I had 10 grilles and which two were empty. Makes sense that the back only has two instead of the four since, for me, no one sits in the back due to the cramp room and that I always have the windscreen there anyway.

 

[ecavuoto]

There are only 8 speakers in the Eos. Only two of the four grills in the back have speakers, the other two are left empty. I suppose the grill was left as a default structure in order to reduce the duplication of parts and to lower the upgrade cost for the Dynaudio system.

If you purchased the Dynaudio upgrade (which isn't available here in Canada) THEN you get 10 speakers. You still DO NOT get a sub since the Eos doesn't have a sub in it anywhere.

The woofers they use are great, and the dynaudio provides an amplifier to each speaker which is supposed to more-accurately reproduce the sounds at low volumes while keeping it crisp at higher volumes.

My system sounds excellent and I have not yet heard a dynaudio so can't compare them. I do get a little distortion when playing at the upper end, but don't do that often enough to care. I don't often play at the really low end of the volume either because I'll usually be talking with passengers so have it off. For me, the stereo is usually sitting around half-way when listening to it. I like it fine.

8 speakers standard. 10 only with dynaudio. That's how it works in the Eos.

Hi...I wanted to revisit this topic for a quick question...I had my 2015 EOS Komfort in to have ghost lamps installed into the doors at my local after market car audit center. While there, I inquired if it would create any issue to my existing speakers if I had basic tweeter speakers added to the empty grill panels in the rear and tap into the other speakers in the back. They said no but I probably will not hear a significant difference in sound with the top down. Has anyone tried doing this simple task and have success with it?

 

[voxmagna]

I think my EOS Sport TDi has them in the rear because a long time ago a diags scan came up with a bad speaker due to the dealer tech leaving off the connection!

From memory their tweeter was a real wimpy thing connected to the Mid/bass driver via a capacitor. It was so small their too short wires nearly got ripped off as I removed the trim. The fronts are equally wimpy. Can't say if they add much or not, if you want decent sound top down try headphones with some local sound mixed in for driver safety.

 

[cb391]

I am not familiar with the 8 speaker system, but does it have 3 speakers on each door? Adding tweeters in back will probably add little as only those sitting in back would hear them. With the top down the rear speakers seem only be a source of fill in sound, not much more. The front speakers provide most of the sound.

 

[ecavuoto]

I am not familiar with the 8 speaker system, but does it have 3 speakers on each door? Adding tweeters in back will probably add little as only those sitting in back would hear them. With the top down the rear speakers seem only be a source of fill in sound, not much more. The front speakers provide most of the sound.

You are correct. Six of the eight speakers are in the two front doors and the remaining two are the large speakers in the rear. The smaller grills in the back that I’m inquiring about adding are the smaller empty grills.

 

[Shep]

Hmmm. I can only recall 2 in each front door and presumed it was the same in the rear, as I have an 8 speaker setup also.

 

[voxmagna]

There is a tweeter in each door, top front of the door card trim. It comes out or gets disconnected to remove the mirror mountings.

 

[voxmagna]

Speaker systems can be done in different ways. MY07 Sport uses the cheap method of adding tweeters across the main unit using a capacitor as the h.f filter. That's pretty crude and only gives a slow 6dB per octave roll off, compared to using a crossover filter.

I would look at what the connections are on the media unit. The best will have decent crossover filters done in discretes, or more often electronically inside the box because they have EQ settings. In this case there will be 8 or however many separate outputs possibly with a common ground but a separate filtered output for each speaker. For that type of box, the speakers in the car would have to be separated and not joined with capacitors.

IMHO just explaining that an aftermarket box may do things different and better than the OE speaker installation which would still 'work' but not give off its best.

 

[barfly]

As usual with his observations, Vox is pretty much on the money. One thing most audiophiles seem to forget is the impact of misspent youths and ageing on ones' hearing.

I played in a band in my youth, vocals and electric violin in a very loud rock band, we always set the group up in the same pattern on stage and as a result I have a marked roll-off in my right ear.

From the age of 12 our hearing is on the decline.

This is the reason that young people find high notes at big levels physically hurt their ears, this is the way older folk like me have our equalizers set up, in a vain attempt to hear those treble notes. Conversely, the fluid in older folk's ears has a higher viscosity than young people, which makes the high level of bass notes so favoured by youngsters painful to older folk. Your grandchildren will often remark on how older folk like their music really tinny.

So as an audio engineer with 50 years experience, take my word for it, you are wasting your money spending a lot of it on an expensive audio system, your ears just won't hear it once you get much past 25 years old, depending on the environment in which you have spent your life.
If you are an Inuit hunter in the Arctic who hasn't worn headphones and been to many rock concerts, you may have exceptional hearing until you are late middle-aged. For the rest of us, 25-30 old is when we are past our best hearing.

By the way, another rip-off myth is monster cables. Unless you are fitting subwoofer units into nightclubs (of which I have done many), with long cable runs they are a total waste of money. Speaker voice coils have internal coils of wire with a diameter of not much greater than a horse hair. The energy levels involved are not that great in a domestic subwoofer setup, so don't waste your money on rip-off cables.

Tony.