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I hate to sound like an expert on bad transmissions, but after having gone through 2 blown DSG transmissions in 11,000 miles (one year), I think I know all of the symptoms. I should tell you that I am an older guy who drives the car to work and around on weekends just to enjoy the convertible. I do not race or abuse the car in any way - I am just a normal driver.

I kind of find the issue to be very simple, i.e. if the transmissions jerks between shifts, emits a loud 'clunk' when shifting, or your PNRD display flashed, or you experience any irregular lag when starting out these are all of the symptoms I have had prior to the transmissions blowing out. In both cases the dealer replaced the medtronic unit and each time that was not the problem, the transmissions burned up (you could smell it) and ceased to operate.

My suggestion is that when that occurs get to the dealer immediately, so that you catch it while you are under warranty and when they repair it they will issue you a warranty for 100,000 miles for any transmission repairs.

To me, it is no mystery, the transmission works nicely when it is NOT broken, but I could tell both times that 'something was rotten in Denmark' . You just need to insist that the problem be fully remedied and insist upon your rights to have this made right. These 2 occurences did not cost me anything and they gave me a loaner car, but it was still a very unpleasant experience each time.

I hope that everyone with DSG transmissions drive trouble free and not have the incredible hassles I have had. I have put in a formal complaint to the NHTSB and they have 10 complaints similar to me on their web site, so this is I think, a real, and under reported problem with the DSG units. If you have problems register a complaint. Only by collecting the true number of occurrences will they be able to act and make VW to make a permanent fix.
 

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Thanks for taking the time to post your experience. I'm up to about 29K on my '09 and so far no problems with my DSG. I can say I don't really like the slight delay when starting off, but that's my only complaint.

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i have a question, in occasions my eos emits a noticeable clunk going from 1st to 2nd usually when cornering and usually around 2-3k rpm, sometimes i smell a sweet burned coolant like smell after a city drive, would this be an early warning?, if so would vw replace my tranny without waiting for it to blow? i have 38k miles on my car, my warranty covers me up to 60k should i wait to see if it gets louder?
 

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I did not experience any of the following when my 55 20 tdi dsg golf blew up it just lost drive as I pulled away from the lights it had done 39,500 miles with no prior problems. On inspection by a gear box specialist they found the box had disintegrated
 

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rest easy DSG owners

most of you should get a letter from Volkswagen soon saying the DSG transmission has an extended (good will) warranty to 100K.
 

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Thanks for taking the time to post your experience. I'm up to about 29K on my '09 and so far no problems with my DSG. I can say I don't really like the slight delay when starting off, but that's my only complaint.

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Hi Herkypilot!

I don't know if this helps but the DSG transmission is a 'clutch-style' transmission. This means that, whenever you apply the brake, the transmission clutch system is disengaged (like pushing in the clutch in a manual transmission). Then, when you release the brake, the transmission re-engages the clutch system, causing the vehicle to emit that slight delay you experience when starting off. Hopefully this is your symptom and not a transmission going bad!

2007 Lux, Reflect Silver Exterior, Charcoal Leather interior, havin' fun with our Eos!
 

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i have a question, in occasions my eos emits a noticeable clunk going from 1st to 2nd usually when cornering and usually around 2-3k rpm, sometimes i smell a sweet burned coolant like smell after a city drive, would this be an early warning?, if so would vw replace my tranny without waiting for it to blow? i have 38k miles on my car, my warranty covers me up to 60k should i wait to see if it gets louder?
I recommend that you get to your dealer ASAP as this is the beginning of transmission failure at least for me both times my transmission failed.
 

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does the extended 100k warranty apply to the uk as well or just across the pond
 

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In for transmission work

My 2010 (12,000 miles) is at the dealer now undergoing transmission repair. I was experiencing significant delay when shifting into D or R. Also, when slowing to a near stop, would experience "indecision". It was as though the transmission couldn't decide which gear to be in to continue.
The loaner (a Nissan) has such throttle response that I have trouble getting use to how sensitive the throttle is.
With the EOS, I would step on the pedal and then back off knowing that when the transmission finally grabbed, the car would jerk forward.
I hope that this (several day) repair will put an end to this. I love the car and spring is approaching!

I'll post the results. I expect to get the car back on Friday.
 

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DSG warranty UK

Checked with VW UK and they confirmed only 3 years, 60,000 mile warranty in UK.

Would not or could not comment on warranty offered by different countries.

Does not seem equitable!
 

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I'll post the results. I expect to get the car back on Friday.
After getting my car on Friday, I wanted to drive it for awhile before drawing any conclusions.
The shifting is definitely better. I think the whole problem was in the downshifting. It is quicker shifting down now and that makes all the difference. No more hesitation at a near stop. Climbing hills is better too.

It sucked not having the car for a few days, but as a reward, the day I picked it up, it was an nice mild 70º day. So I was able to drive home with the top down for the first time since last year.
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Hi Everyone, I have just committed the sin of buying a 2008 2.0L FSi DSG car with 105KKm on it. It's one lady owner, mostly freeway trips, full VW service history and its in great condition, drives just beautifully....until the transmission oil gets hot. Then there is bad judder at low speed in 1st gear and terminal judder in reverse. Having read the forums this is probably a distorted clutch plate rather than mechatronic issue but I'm guessing of course.

Needless to say its going back to the dealer under warranty ASAP. Will keep you posted as to the result. I am told that currently in AU a clutch pack change is $2700, Mechatronic change $5,550 or $12,500 for a replacement box. There is a hint of a goodwill contribution from VW.

This is my 4th VW but my first DSG. Wish I had read this forum first before buying it!

To anyone considering my folly, make sure you take the car for a really long test drive, and then try to back it up a slight incline. If it judders walk away. If the dealer says no to a long test drive then walk away.
 

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I have 2 cars with DSG and have had no issues with either of them... There isn't a fundamental flaw with them, just some poeple clearly had bad luck.
 

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Hello all, I am the new owner of a 2007 EOS, 3.2 auto with steering wheel shifter paddles. I bought it last month and it only has 16,000 miles. I am here because in the morning the transmission seems to slip quite a bit.
Last week I parked on a slight hill with the front end down. When I went to back out, the engine revved up to 2500 RPMs before the car moved backwards. I am also noticing that Drive also slips first thing in the morning. After the car has been running a minute or so, it shifts fine. Sounds like I need to get this in to the dealer as it is still under factory warranty. Any other suggestions?
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It's probably is under warrantee even though your vehicle is probably out of warrantee. My '08 has a 4 year warrantee that will end in this coming November.

That said, about 2 years ago VW extended the DSG transmissions to either 8 or 10 years/100,000 miles as I remember. I have the notice somewhere in my file. The reason for the extension was for problems exactly like yours. I had the same thing happen to my '08 when it only had around 10K on it.

I was parked on a hill downtown and truthfully, I thought I was going to have to have the car towed. It "bucked" and made some strange noises when in reverse. I took it in to the dealer and they fixed it in a day. I believe the problem has something to do with a control component on the transmission. Ninety nine percent of my DSG problem were in backing up on a hill.
 

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Gotta agree with some folks here that delays between 1, R, N, P are by design. Old cars may experience longer delay as the torque converter is slower. Hesitant between gears in start-stop traffic is also by design. The double-clutch idea is great however when it comes to implementation it was quite poor. It takes lots of parameters to predict and prepare what gear is gonna be next. VW needs to hire more brilliant software engineers to do this. in start-stop traffic, DSG is less comfortable than a Hyundai box. Start moving on hill, better use handbrake like in a manual car.
 

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Since this thread was recently revived I have to ask, does anyone know exactly what the conditions of VW's "good will" warranty extension are?

I keep seeing 100k miles, but the timeframe is less consistent, does anyone know if a 2008 will still be covered, and if there is somewhere that I can get documentation of this extension if the dealer denies it? Also, what is the burden of proof to show the dealer that a replacement of the "Mechatronic" unit, or other transmission repair is necessary? I have very hard shifts and excessive lag from a stop, but it seems that most dealers are quick to write this off as normal for the DSG, where others say it is a legitimate and fixable issue. Any additional information is greatly appreciated.
 

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As I mentioned in another thread, the Mechatronics in my 2012 Eos was recently replaced. It made a huge difference in the cars driveability. One thing that I've been noticing over the past few months is a shudder when releasing the break and about to accelerate. It feels like a clutch grabbing. DOes this seam normal?

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I hate to sound like an expert on bad transmissions, but after having gone through 2 blown DSG transmissions in 11,000 miles (one year), I think I know all of the symptoms. I should tell you that I am an older guy who drives the car to work and around on weekends just to enjoy the convertible. I do not race or abuse the car in any way - I am just a normal driver.

I kind of find the issue to be very simple, i.e. if the transmissions jerks between shifts, emits a loud 'clunk' when shifting, or your PNRD display flashed, or you experience any irregular lag when starting out these are all of the symptoms I have had prior to the transmissions blowing out. In both cases the dealer replaced the medtronic unit and each time that was not the problem, the transmissions burned up (you could smell it) and ceased to operate.

My suggestion is that when that occurs get to the dealer immediately, so that you catch it while you are under warranty and when they repair it they will issue you a warranty for 100,000 miles for any transmission repairs.

To me, it is no mystery, the transmission works nicely when it is NOT broken, but I could tell both times that 'something was rotten in Denmark' . You just need to insist that the problem be fully remedied and insist upon your rights to have this made right. These 2 occurences did not cost me anything and they gave me a loaner car, but it was still a very unpleasant experience each time.

I hope that everyone with DSG transmissions drive trouble free and not have the incredible hassles I have had. I have put in a formal complaint to the NHTSB and they have 10 complaints similar to me on their web site, so this is I think, a real, and under reported problem with the DSG units. If you have problems register a complaint. Only by collecting the true number of occurrences will they be able to act and make VW to make a permanent fix.
You have certainly had your share of
problems-sorry to hear that.My recent purchase of a 2007-ocassionally has a slight jek in Drive-from stand still start, Mechtronic ? Thanks
 

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Although mine is 6 speed manual stick, I've read many good reports about the VW DSG from a driving aspect and something I might consider when older age sets in. :( Somebody facing a repair without warranty support needs to tear one down and report the failure mechanism. Or perhaps people don't do that sort of thing anymore? :confused:
 
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