Black is awsome when it is clean. It would be a full time job just to keep it clean. I noticed the same issue after I applied Krytox for the first time. It will go away after you wash it. As for the water spots, well black does show them. Just make sure you keep it waxed or polished so the water spots don't become permanent. The only other color that I had that showed water spots more was red. Silver is the ideal color because it shows dirt and water spots less than other colors. I just wanted a change since my last two cars were silver. I must say though, a couple of more washes and waxes in 100 degree weather and I am going back to silver.
Kryox everywhere
So I washed, polished and waxed my car before using the kryox for the first time. Big mistake. It's all over the bodywork near the seals and I used far too much (about 2/3 of the bottle 
). The stuff has also smeared all over my windows from the seals.
If I use some detergent to get the stuff off the bodywork I may as well re-wash/wax the car - right?
Can I just polish it of?
Also, am I supposed to treat the door seals. That post:
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3087297&page=1
does mention the tops of the doors, near the hinge, but not specifically the seals all round the bottom of the door and door frame. I can't be bothered reading all the followup posts on that thread where this may be mentioned, I just though I'd ask you friendly guys and gals.
Also. My car is black. I've never had a car this colour before and there are water spots on it even after a light shower. Is that just something you just have to accept with black cars?
). The stuff has also smeared all over my windows from the seals. If I use some detergent to get the stuff off the bodywork I may as well re-wash/wax the car - right?
Can I just polish it of?
Also, am I supposed to treat the door seals. That post:
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3087297&page=1
does mention the tops of the doors, near the hinge, but not specifically the seals all round the bottom of the door and door frame. I can't be bothered reading all the followup posts on that thread where this may be mentioned, I just though I'd ask you friendly guys and gals.
Also. My car is black. I've never had a car this colour before and there are water spots on it even after a light shower
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A bottle should do about 6 or 6 applications... I used about 1/5th of the bottle and I still have to clean it off the windows... Although now, it's stopped dripping on my rear flaps and door!
Regarding the cleaning, after a wash, just wipe off the drip marks with some Turtle Wax ICE Synthetic Detailer and a Microfibre Cloth... Works wonders! After it rains, just get rid of the grit from the rain so you don't rub it in like sand paper and then detail it again.. Every time I get a wash, it takes me about 5 to 10 mins to detail the whole car (ecept windows which I use window cleaner). Looks AMAZING after that! Mine's Deep black pearl effect..
Regarding the cleaning, after a wash, just wipe off the drip marks with some Turtle Wax ICE Synthetic Detailer and a Microfibre Cloth... Works wonders! After it rains, just get rid of the grit from the rain so you don't rub it in like sand paper and then detail it again.. Every time I get a wash, it takes me about 5 to 10 mins to detail the whole car (ecept windows which I use window cleaner). Looks AMAZING after that! Mine's Deep black pearl effect..
I've read that too, regarding the foam applicator. Strange, because every thread I have read about Krytox indicates that it is a superior lubricant, in part, because it is quite inert and non-reactive. The TSB also shows the technician applying Krytox while wearing a glove of some sort. Vinyl? Latex?
I strongly suspect that purpose of glove is to protect one's hand from the Krytox. Better it it slowly eats away a glove than you skin!I've read that too, regarding the foam applicator. Strange, because every thread I have read about Krytox indicates that it is a superior lubricant, in part, because it is quite inert and non-reactive. The TSB also shows the technician applying Krytox while wearing a glove of some sort. Vinyl? Latex?
It shouldn't eat away at anything...
However, like most oils, it does take several hand washes to get it all off... So a glove may be a good idea.... I applied mine with my finger and it works fine, just don't put too much on or you will be cleaning it off the windows for a long time!!
However, like most oils, it does take several hand washes to get it all off... So a glove may be a good idea.... I applied mine with my finger and it works fine, just don't put too much on or you will be cleaning it off the windows for a long time!!
That's sort of my point...why can't you use a foam brush?? Doesn't make sense.It shouldn't eat away at anything...
Not important, just don't understand why.
I've used a foam brush for the repeated application of krytox on two EOS cars now. I have found that the "cats tongue" texture of the seals seems to break the foam apart as it is used. I'll bet that is why they are saying "don't use foam brushes" because if you aren't watching, bits of the brush could get stuck to the seal and cause leaks.
When my brush is showing signs of wear, I use another brush. Usually, I'll go through a couple brushes for a single application on one car. The brushes are so cheap that I don't care if I have to use two or more.
As for krytox being bad for skin... not true. The reason I say this? Simple:
Krytox is actually graded as a "food safe" product. That means that it is used to lubricate machines that process food for human consumption. The lubricant has to be food safe as it may come into contact with the food being processed by the machines. Apparently, don't ask me how they test this, but if you accidentally ingest small amounts of krytox, they say that it is no big deal. If you can eat it, you can surely wear it.
Actually, and this is not a scientific statement, but I'd bet that it is better than some of the chemicals that we deliberately put on our skin.
From the dupont site: (reproduced without permission)
In the food processing industry, you don't have to sacrifice safety for performance.
- Chemically, biologically and environmentally inert and silicone-free.
- Completely clear, odorless and tasteless oils. White, odorless, and tasteless greases
From the Krytox Oil MSDS:
First Aid
The compound is not likely to be hazardous by skin contact but cleansing the skin after use is advisable.
Ingestion
Drink water and do not induce vomiting. Physician advise is "activated charcoal may be used" which is, as I understand it, a "don't worry about it" message.
Overall though, don't believe anything I said. Do what makes you feel most comfortable and safe. If that is wearing gloves, then cool. If that is getting your dealer to put the stuff onto the car, good too. The EOS is too much fun to be worried about things like this.
Cheers
--EOSmage (jon)
When my brush is showing signs of wear, I use another brush. Usually, I'll go through a couple brushes for a single application on one car. The brushes are so cheap that I don't care if I have to use two or more.
As for krytox being bad for skin... not true. The reason I say this? Simple:
Krytox is actually graded as a "food safe" product. That means that it is used to lubricate machines that process food for human consumption. The lubricant has to be food safe as it may come into contact with the food being processed by the machines. Apparently, don't ask me how they test this, but if you accidentally ingest small amounts of krytox, they say that it is no big deal. If you can eat it, you can surely wear it.
Actually, and this is not a scientific statement, but I'd bet that it is better than some of the chemicals that we deliberately put on our skin.
From the dupont site: (reproduced without permission)
In the food processing industry, you don't have to sacrifice safety for performance.
- Chemically, biologically and environmentally inert and silicone-free.
- Completely clear, odorless and tasteless oils. White, odorless, and tasteless greases
From the Krytox Oil MSDS:
First Aid
The compound is not likely to be hazardous by skin contact but cleansing the skin after use is advisable.
Ingestion
Drink water and do not induce vomiting. Physician advise is "activated charcoal may be used" which is, as I understand it, a "don't worry about it" message.
Overall though, don't believe anything I said. Do what makes you feel most comfortable and safe. If that is wearing gloves, then cool. If that is getting your dealer to put the stuff onto the car, good too.
The EOS is too much fun to be worried about things like this. Cheers
--EOSmage (jon)
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