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Just took my Eos to the dealer to deal with a small leak in the A pillar and a torn weather strip between the rear window and the front window. I came armed with all the info I read about here re: Krytox (G 052 172 A1) and that all the seals need to be lubed. He told me they are having problems with the windshield seal and need to replace. More importantly he told me that I can use Vasoline on the seals as it works just as well, will not harm the seals and lasts longer. But not to let the word out. So please don't tell anyone :D

Hmmm, I've already spent the $45 for the Krytox and could have spent only $0.99 instead.
 

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Just took my Eos to the dealer to deal with a small leak in the A pillar and a torn weather strip between the rear window and the front window. I came armed with all the info I read about here re: Krytox (G 052 172 A1) and that all the seals need to be lubed. He told me they are having problems with the windshield seal and need to replace. More importantly he told me that I can use Vasoline on the seals as it works just as well, will not harm the seals and lasts longer. But not to let the word out. So please don't tell anyone :D

Hmmm, I've already spent the $45 for the Krytox and could have spent only $0.99 instead.


Haven't I read somewhere that you must NOT use Vaseline? Can't remember why. Think you'll find a thread on this somewhere if you search this site!



 

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I just checked and the post says VW don't recommend it, but isn't that because they want you to buy their overpriced lubricant? (That's if you find a dealer who knows what you're talking about!)
 

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The service writer told me that's what he uses on his door and window seals, but he doesn't have an Eos. I guess I will use up the bottle I bought and then see what new info we find.
 

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Yeah..nothing smarter than using a PETROLEUM based lubricant on rubber...
I will stick to Krytox and its inert formula that will not break down rubber seals. I would think that the repair guy is not going to pay for warranty issues when your seals break down. The Krytox liquid just requires a few drops and lasts a long time, I still have almost 90pct of my bottle after several treatments.
 

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My dealer also told me to use vaseline a few weeks back. I have refrained from doing so thus far but will need to do something soon as there is a little squeak developing up top (oh dear, I bet that's a cue for the funnies from the likes of Schoolhouse Fred & co)!!!
 

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Please don't listen to that service guy. :( sometimes, I think they will let ANYONE be a service tech.

As others have stated here, petroleum products will cause the rubber to deteriorate and eventually fail. How long this process takes will depend on how much you use and how often you apply it. Basically, you'll be paying for new seals to be installed because VW specifically state in the manual "don't use anything other than the VW lube on the seals".

So, you can pay for the lube in small amounts, or spend the money all at once to replace the seals. :(

Non silicone and non petroleum based Krytox is the best product to use. It is registered as food-safe for machines that process food. It doesn't react to anything and is safe for application with bare hands.

You call it though. I'll continue to use the VW krytox...
 

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I agree. I used the VW stuff (Krytox) and used hardly any of the bottle. I just thought it interesting that a service writer would tell me that. But then again, they do work on commission and if I need new seals down the road ........
 

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You call it though. I'll continue to use the VW krytox...
Another vote for Krytox only on the roof seals. After spending $30,000 plus for this car, If I skip one meal a year eating out, the Krytox is paid for.

Remember, some portions of the roof seal are exposed and I would think any grease type product like Vasoline would attract grit and grime that would be difficult to remove, at the very least.

But, like EOSmage says, it's your call.
 

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I would guard against using Vaseline. The whole point in them recommending Krytox is that it is a stable fluro-carbon based lubricant that does not oxidise. Vaseline will lubricate by absorption into the rubber, oxidise and cause the rubber to go hard, then no seal and leaks.

May be higher priced initially but a lot cheaper than changing all the seals you lubricated with Vaseline.
 

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Apart from possibly damaging the rubber seals, can you just imagine the mess that Vaseline will cause? Everything sticks to it- road dust, bugs, and anything else which is passing by. The windows will become really smeared and it will just be a horrible mess and a royal pain to clean off.
If you get Vaseline along the top edge of the glass and then roll the window down, the stuff will get onto the seal along the top of the door and then smear right across the whole of the glass when you roll the window back up!

I used Krytox when I got my car last March (bought the stuff MUCH cheaper than the VW price), used vary sparingly I have had no leaks at all even in the monsoon conditions we had in the UK a few weeks back. Have to say that even this small amount of Krytox did cause some smearing on the window glass: in future I shall not put it on the seals around the windows and will just use it on the roof joints.

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Just my window cleaning method for getting rid of Krytox smears on the Windows.

A little dish washing liquid in water and a microfiber cloth. Then buff with a clean towel. I start with the roof up and do the sunroof, top and bottom then rear window. I lower the roof and then do the side windows and leave the roof down for a little while for everything to dry completely.
 
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