[Sunny_Eos]

A friend of mine recently told me that I should put my new Eos in Neutral when stopped at a long light (~10 seconds or more). I've always driven automatic cars and even though mine is an automatic, the DSG transmission acts more like a manual than the usual automatic.

Is this something everyone does with their DSG? Should I be shifting into neutral at stoplights?

Thanks!

 

[cb391]

Do not put the DSG into neutral. When your foot is on the brake at a stop, the trans goes into its own version of neutral. Putting your car in neutral at a stop light is against the law in a lot of places and can be dangerous.

 

[Sunny_Eos]

Thanks for the response. I had looked on other message boards and all I found was a heated argument between two people.

Do you happen to know exactly what the trans does? You say it shifts into its own version of neutral... is this why when I take my foot off the brake it takes about a second before the car starts to pull forward?

 

[V6 Bandit]

I am pretty sure the DSG has 2 'normal' dry plate clutches which are operated normally. One is used to drive and the other preselects the next gear. When your foot is on the brake the clutch is disengaged just like pressing a clutch pedal if we had one, so in theory holding in gear with foot on the brake is just like sitting with clutch pedal down.

 

[silvershadow]

Thanks for the response. I had looked on other message boards and all I found was a heated argument between two people.

Do you happen to know exactly what the trans does? You say it shifts into its own version of neutral... is this why when I take my foot off the brake it takes about a second before the car starts to pull forward?

The MY09 spec DSG transmissions have a "hill-hold" feature which prevents the car rolling back on an incline when you take your foot off the brake to put on the accelerator to move away from a standstill. It is my understanding this feature is activated when the slope is more than 5 degrees but hopefully others with more knowledge than I can provide more information.

Great for drivers who have never driven a car with manual transmission.

 

[SiJ2000]

OK, two points here...

The DSG (6 speed) in the EOS has Wet clutches, I believe. The new 7 speed one will have Dry clutches...

Anyway, the arguement about neutral...

Obviously, in an Automatic, you must stay in drive, as every time you go into back into Drive, you cause wear and tear. This means that the less you come out of drive and go back in, the better it is for the box.

With the DSG, the same rule essentially applies. However, there isn't so much wear and tear as nothin actually engages when you go into drive, the clutch starts to engage when you take your food off the brake.

Lastly, regarding the two clutches. One is for gears 1,3,5 and reverse, the other is for gears 2,4 and 6.

 

[V6 Bandit]

Simon you were bang on, 6 speed has wet clutches, new 7 speed with dry clutches for smaller engined cars.

See link to wikipedia article

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct-Shift_Gearbox

Because we have to hold the foot brake to engage 'D' i always prefer to stay in drive so its less hassle at the lights. Difficult to pull away looking cool when you try to put it in gear without hitting brake first.

Tim