[SiJ2000]

All,

I have tested the attached tech bulletin from VW and it seems to work... (Although not 100%, it is MUCH better than before!!)...

Please note that this is a disctictive metal on metal sounding rattle. It is NOT a squeak!! It also only happens when the roof is closed and it also comes from the back corner of the interior of the car (C Segment)...

I will post a few posts with some instructions below one post at a time!

DO NOT ATTEMPT TO DO THIS UNLESS YOU ARE 100% CONFIDENT ON ROOF MECHANISM!!!
S

 

[SiJ2000]

Part 1

You first need to open the roof to the point that the C Segment (rear window) lifts up about 3/4 of the full way... You can test this by letting go of the button and within a minute or so, it should start to fall back down with gravity... (Make sure ignition is off once C Segment in position... May take some practice!)

What you need to do is manually stop it on its "gravity pulled" way down. DO NOT USE THE ROOF CLOSE BUTTON TO DO THIS OR YOU MAY DAMAGE ROOF!!!

USING POWER TO DO THIS WILL DAMAGE THE ROOF!!!!

Then you can slide axel stands under to support it otherwise gravity will bring it all the way down.....

 

[SiJ2000]

Removing Shim

You then need to make sure you find the correct part.. It is shown in the centre of the picture...

There are TWO T-30 Torx screws holding it.. Due to the waxed screws, they are quite stiff to turn...

Once this is removed, you will see a metal shim (perhaps more than one). You will need to remove one of them and then put back together again.....

Obviously this should be done on the side where the rattle is coming from...

If you don't have any shims and there is one on the other side, that can be removed and will help the situation, although maybe not 100%

 

[SiJ2000]

Nearly Done!

Once this is securely fitted back to the C Segment, you will need to release the Axel Stands...

To do this, gently lift the C Segment up with your hand, enough to slide out the Axel Stands.... Once this is done, the segment will simply fall to nearly the bottom due to gravity....

You can then turn on the ignition and open and then close the roof.. Whilst closing the roof, please make sure that you listen to the latches closing to ensure all is working OK and that nothing sounds strained.

If you just removed one shim and there it still a rattle, you can repeat the whole process and remove a second shim as necessary!

JOB DONE!!!

The attached picture is the T-30 driver I used (You need the leverage of a T shaped drived, I couldn't even undo the screws with a normal one.. too stiff!

The item below it is one of the actual removed shims!

 

[SiJ2000]

This is the LAST post, so if you are seeing this first, please scroll to the beginning!!

OBVIOUSLY THIS IS FOR YOUR INFORMATION... CLEARLY I CAN'T BE HELD LIABLE IN ANY WAY IF SOMEONE TRIES THIS AND DOES IT INCORRECTLY!!!
Thanks

 

[adamber]

WOW Simon!!!! - well done... bet you are pleased that you noise has stopped! Very brave...!

 

[SiJ2000]

I'm very pleased.... Hasn't completely removed the rattle, but is much better... Now I know it is the position of those parts, I can now do some experiments.... I think it may even be the bottom of that part (which is metal) banging on the metal of the car body where it goes into.. I will test for that and see what happens....

 

[neh321]

Rattle

Brilliant Simon.

Think I might learn to live with the rattle instead though...

 

[schoolhousefred]

Brilliant Simon.

Think I might learn to live with the rattle instead though...

Agreed ... too complex for me!

 

[adamber]

Looks like this one should only be carried out by experts or eos technical advisor (aka Simon)!!

If I tried... the roof would never work again!

 

[SiJ2000]

OK.. Now sounds plastic ish!

I think I know where it is coming from (Bottom of C Segment).... I will look Sat morning and make my modifications and then road test... If it works, I will post up pictures, it will be a VERY simple mod for anyone to do.... (Not like the above!!)

 

[tishysmith]

You are good Simon! I think you could have a very lucrative career with VW as their Eos Techy. I bet you know more about our cars than anyone working for VW! Anyway good luck with your investigations on saturday.
Regards Trish

 

[SiJ2000]

Hi,

Thanks for the compliment! I can confirm that the rattle is now pretty much gone..... I need a new clip to make it go completely and that is on order with VW.... When it arrives, I will swap them and all should be fine!

I will post some pictures up hopefully tomorrow cos I have to go out now!

 

[SiJ2000]

OK....

I now have photo of the culprit!!

This plastc rivet was slightly damaged and loose. This was causing the trim it holds to bang against the rear parcel shelf.. I have a new one on order from VW and that should then take care of the rattle!!!!

 

[SKIDOO]

Well done Simon. Hope to God you don't get any more rattles, all this investigation must be stopping you getting out and about ! Bet your wife & kids are glad you've sorted it now, they might get to see more of you and a few more EDA's.
Gary

 

[cb391]

OK....

I now have photo of the culprit!!

This plastc rivet was slightly damaged and loose. This was causing the trim it holds to bang against the rear parcel shelf.. I have a new one on order from VW and that should then take care of the rattle!!!!

Simon,
From the picture this rivot appears to be on the bottom edge of the rear window unit. Is this correct?

 

[SiJ2000]

That is correct

It is one of three holding on the lower trim on the C Segment (rear window unit)...

 

[SiJ2000]

I can now confirm 100% that the rattle is GONE!!!!

Clip arrived today and I fitted it and all is now well

 

[cb391]

Simon,
Glad to hear that you have fixed your rattle. I checked the same area of mine and found all the plastic rivets and the plastic trim piece to be tight and securely mounted. I am beginning to believe there may be multiple causes to the problem. I have my Eos at the dealer for another problem but I am also having them look at the rattle. I was wondering if the rubber seal at the base of the window and the cushion on the under side of the window just don't have enough cushioning ability?

 

[SiJ2000]

The sounds are quite a giveaway, but as I can't hear yours, I can't say... The main points are the two areas I have discussed above and also the top of the C Segment where it rests on those metal springs (If you look you will see them....

If you think it may be coming from there, put some insulating tape over the top of the springs, if this helps, then the dealer can put some adhesive felt or equivalent over them to dampen the rattle. Quite honestly, they seem to be quite a tight fit, so this is unlikely...

Can you describe your "sound"?