[pjgraham86]

How many of you have had your T-FSI Eos re-mapped or are thinking about it ? If so who did you go with (or thinking of going with) and what do you think of the outcome ?

I regularly read VW Driver magazine and there seem to be number of companies who offer various types of re-map. I'd consider one that didn't involve uprating any other components eg exhaust, turbo etc.

Thanks

Peter

 

[neh321]

How many of you have had your T-FSI Eos re-mapped or are thinking about it ? If so who did you go with (or thinking of going with) and what do you think of the outcome ?

I regularly read VW Driver magazine and there seem to be number of companies who offer various types of re-map. I'd consider one that didn't involve uprating any other components eg exhaust, turbo etc.

Thanks

Peter

I'm seriously thinking about it. There is an independent VW/Audi specialst just round the corner from where I work who is offering 230 bhp for about £350. Can't quite decide whether my T-FSI is fast enough already or not...

 

[Tintin]

The only thing I would be worried about is whether by doing this you invalidate the warranty as well as you insurance cover

 

[pjgraham86]

You would definitely need to disclose to your insurers as otherwise they will almost certainly not pay out on a claim.

Warranty issues - this has been explored on the uk-mkivs forum exhaustively and the consensus seemed to be (when I last checked) that any professional re-map would be hard for a dealer to detect unless they set out to look for it. Even then, they could only refuse a warrant yclaim if the re-map affected the component which was faulty.

I realise that's a bit simplistic but I think with a car that will (hopefully!)be with them once a year for servicing it's worth the risk.

peter

 

[neh321]

The only thing I would be worried about is whether by doing this you invalidate the warranty as well as you insurance cover

I certainly wouldn't even think about doing it without telling my insurance company. Don't think I'd bother telling the dealer though; if they find out for themselves then so be it but I don't think I'm obliged to tell them. That's if I do it!

 

[davidp]

I certainly wouldn't even think about doing it without telling my insurance company. Don't think I'd bother telling the dealer though; if they find out for themselves then so be it but I don't think I'm obliged to tell them. That's if I do it!

I suppose you have to ask why the dealer would be interested. If something goes wrong under warranty the dealer makes good money charging VW to fix it. Why would they jeopardise that lucrative income by deliberately searching for a possible remap.

Similarly with the insurance, the repairer would have to search the system looking for a remap. Why would they bother?

I'm not saying don't tell the dealer and the insurance but just pointing out the fact that very few owners bother informing anyone, mainly because modern remaps are difficult (but not totally impossible ) to detect and even then how can they prove it led to the fault.

Basically, if it keeps you awake at night worrying then dont do it. .

 

[GOgg]

I am considering the Bluefin system as according to the literature. You can change back to default settings before it goes back to the dealer.Then re-map when you get it home.
I would still ensure that I informed the insurance company, I have no idea how much extra it would be as an ongoing cost.

 

[adamber]

Without wanting to expose myself as a dim wit, a quick question (please be nice)...

If the EOS can perform better with a remap, why is it not supplied from VW with this? ie, supplied with the best performance possible? Does this not mean that they way the car comes is the best... and that remapping may cause other negative effect?

See, told you stupid question... but if you dont ask...

 

[GOgg]

Cost firstly, and reliability / longevity of engine life I would assume.

 

[davidp]

Without wanting to expose myself as a dim wit, a quick question (please be nice)...

If the EOS can perform better with a remap, why is it not supplied from VW with this? ie, supplied with the best performance possible? Does this not mean that they way the car comes is the best... and that remapping may cause other negative effect?

See, told you stupid question... but if you dont ask...

Fair question actually. The remappers say its because manufacturers keep tuning down to a low level to cover all conditions. Eg: hot climates to cold climates, users who do thousands of mile per year cf users who only do hundreds of miles and stop starts. Tuning is kept within a 'very' safe margin.

 

[SiJ2000]

That is indeed correct.... Remapping the ECU can sometimes push these boundaries.... The engines aren't tested to these limits on a lot of occasions... That is why the warranty issue arrises. Personally, I wouldn't get a remap!

 

[Hornet9]

Interesting point regarding the testing of the engine. If you have ever had the honour of visiting a major vehicle manufacturers engine R & D centre, which I have on many occassions, you will see that they thrash the engines on test rigs, more than anyone short of a formula 1 driver would or could.

Also, remember that what is basically the same engine internals in the T-FSI is already in vehicles churning out 40 b.h.p. more, so I don't see there being too much of a risk on the reliability front. Only area that may be of any concern would be the clutch. If the extra power is used in the lower gears all of the time, then the extra torque may cause some clutch slippage if 'really' abused.

My personal preference will be to go for REVO Stage 1, with a Select Plus (allows you to switch from performance map to standard and back again in seconds).

As winter approaches, I will now wait until next spring and get mine done.

 

[SiJ2000]

I agree with your point in theory, but if they do pick up on it when getting weird readings at a service on emmisions and mixture or something like that, they will say what I said, regardless of what the reality of testing is... I think the current DSG is only rated to max 250 BHP or something like that, so I wouldn't do it for that reason. The DSG is simply too expensive!