Remove fuse for theft prevention

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vwnotch64

Discussion Starter · 19 d ago

I saw a video on YouTube from Scotty Kilmer in which he recommends removing a fuse underneath the hood as a theft prevention. He was referring to the fuse that controls the fuel injection. Does anybody know which fuse on a 2012 EOS controls the fuel injection? Does anybody else have a better idea for theft prevention?

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2phast

· #2 · 19 d ago

vwnotch64 said:
I saw a video on YouTube from Scotty Kilmer in which he recommends removing a fuse underneath the hood as a theft prevention. He was referring to the fuse that controls the fuel injection. Does anybody know which fuse on a 2012 EOS controls the fuel injection? Does anybody else have a better idea for theft prevention?

Volkswagens have a immobilizer that prevents the car from starting if the remote isn't in close proximity to the ignition. So hot wiring is out of the question, even someone with a scanner capturing your remote code, won't do them any good without the immobilizer pill that is inside the remote.

So not sure why you would want to mess around with pulling fuses.

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voxmagna

· #3 · 18 d ago

vwnotch64 said:
I saw a video on YouTube from Scotty Kilmer in which he recommends removing a fuse underneath the hood as a theft prevention. He was referring to the fuse that controls the fuel injection. Does anybody know which fuse on a 2012 EOS controls the fuel injection? Does anybody else have a better idea for theft prevention?

I bet what you read on the internet didn't explain that removing fuses in an efi system with electronic controllers can cause controllers normally 'Always on' powered in sleep mode to reboot, or set faults if you forgot to replace a fuse after key on? This may cause consequential faults requiring diagnostics to clear them? Too many people who think they know about cars and want to tell others, don't have experience with more complex computer electronics designed into modern cars.

Either rely on the built in V.W immobiliser or fit a steering wheel or shifter lock after parking if theft worries you?

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2phast

· #4 · 18 d ago

voxmagna said:
I bet what you read on the internet didn't explain that removing fuses in an efi system with electronic controllers can cause controllers normally 'Always on' powered in sleep mode to reboot, or set faults if you forgot to replace a fuse after key on? This may cause consequential faults requiring diagnostics to clear them? Too many people who think they know about cars and want to tell others, don't have experience with more complex computer electronics designed into modern cars.

Either rely on the built in V.W immobiliser or fit a steering wheel or shifter lock after parking if theft worries you?

FWIW, steering wheel locks, while very tough and difficult to cut through can easily be defeated by just cutting through the soft material of the steering wheel, takes only a few minutes and you can remove the steering wheel lock.

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voxmagna

· #5 · 18 d ago

The harder you make their job, the more likely they will pick the next easier car with flawed KESSI. These days they want cars with a high parts values they can quickly strip and sell on, or ship in a container to foreign parts. I wouldn't expect the EOS being old now to be in that class? They might like expensive addons, the wheels and leave the car on bricks.

Most physical anti theft devices give up when attacked with a battery angle grinder. I use a lock which connectes the parking brake to the manual shift stick. It's bright yellow and very visible. You could buy your own Denver boot and carry that around in the limited EOS trunk space.

I saw a video once of a 'Bait car' left in a crime area with cameras setup nearby. In the first hour it was scratched with a key, wipers were bent and superficial damage. Then the car shouted, 'I'm left here abandoned help yourself'. Various perps turned up, the wheels were off in seconds, doors removed, interior and lots of other bits. At the end of the day there was nothing left but the body shell.

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vwnotch64

Discussion Starter · #6 · 18 d ago

Thanks for the tips and info to all of you!

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UKMOGG

· #7 · 11 d ago

voxmagna said:
I bet what you read on the internet didn't explain that removing fuses in an efi system with electronic controllers can cause controllers normally 'Always on' powered in sleep mode to reboot, or set faults if you forgot to replace a fuse after key on? This may cause consequential faults requiring diagnostics to clear them? Too many people who think they know about cars and want to tell others, don't have experience with more complex computer electronics designed into modern cars.

Either rely on the built in V.W immobiliser or fit a steering wheel or shifter lock after parking if theft worries you?

BANG!
lightbulb moment!
I still don’t go to sleep properly. I have a method to shut down and it has worked well for 5 years but I know one day I will get caught out. Do still want to fix it.
If I can’t find the correct fuse box diagram for my model ( which I have failed to do). And I have tried all the fuse milliampere draw method and failed, then may be filling every empty fuse slot with the indicated value fuse will enable full sleep mode? Does anyone see an issue with filling every fuse slot? I’m pretty sure there’s a ton that are not connected. May be there is one that was pulled and not replaced properly…anyone tried that? What say you Voxmagna?
Thx
M

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voxmagna

· #8 · 11 d ago

I don't put fuses in empty slots unless I know they are used. V.W have many fusebox layouts covering a multitude of wiring and optional extras. You never know if there's no wiring connected, there is wiring connected and it's floating inside the loom bundle, or it's in the loom and they haven't insulated the ends.

The fusebox layout is in the drivers manual in the glovebox. They aren't always 100% accurate but that print version is probably closest to the the car year build.

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