[Coconut]

I have something strange going on with the roof

If I hold the button to close the roof, and keep it held after closing and the "bong" is heard, and the "roof closed" text displayed, all 4 windows will then close ( they're supposed to ),
but then sometimes - not every time - the drivers window will open again and stop about a third of the way down

Has anyone else had this happen, or have any ideas why it would do this ( sometimes ). I thought it might be due to the window sticking, but it only ever does this after the roof closing procedure, the window has never re-opened after closing it in normal use. ( Or is it just me ? )

Been to the dealer once with it an it was a "No fault found" report from them,
although they haven't ( yet ) witnessed this happening.

 

[Rathbod]

Roof operation quirk

Hi Coconut

I am sure one of the techies will pick up this thread but I wonder if it is anything to do with the "fail safe" mechanism on the electric window. Under normal operation it is my understadning the electric windows have this safe mode to stop your kids getting their heads trapped in a closing window, I wonder if the closure of your roof is in someway affecting this device

Derek

 

[lordy]

I've had this a couple of times with the offside rear window. As mentioned above, i'm pretty sure it's the anti trap kicking when the window touches the seal. It's an intermittent happening, and I'm certainly not bothered by it, so I'll ask the dealer to look at it when the first service is due...............

 

[GOgg]

I'm sure thats the reason as well. The settings can be adjusted during a service visit or if you can't wait just book a visit.
HTH

 

[Doolallygirl]

I'm sure thats the reason as well. The settings can be adjusted during a service visit or if you can't wait just book a visit.
HTH

Happened to me last night for the first time.... bit of a mystery to me as nothing has made it stop going up but it just didn't rise at all.... hmm me thinks I might be dropping a little e-mail to my dealer today!

 

[Coconut]

Thanks everyone - at least it's not me then !

It certainly does act as though it is the safety "roll back" feature operating,
but it only happens immediately after the roof closing operation, and never ( yet ) after closing the window independently, when the roof has remained closed.

I will update this thread towards the end of next week after my dealer has had another look, meanwhile if anyone else has this problem please post details here.

 

[busdriver]

Same happened to me on the Pax side. Every other time the roof went up it happened. But I have had the roof down so much now (I know, even with the sh1t summer) it doesn't happen any more. I think the rubber has softened and doesn't trigger the anti trap feature.

Give it time and it probably will stop.

 

[sunscreemer]

Hi, i had mine in recently as i had a few leaks and so the windows have been adjusted. Seems to have completely stopped the leaks but now my drivers window does the same thing (and my thoughts were that the anti-trap was being triggered). Also though, the one touch operation has stopped working on the passenger window. Should be going in soon to get it sorted as it is not only annoying but when you get a small crowd to watch the roof go up it looks crap when the drivers window then moves down again!

 

[SiJ2000]

It is the fail safe mechanism... If the window is correctly adjusted, it can suggest deformed or dried up window seals... It is important to lube them up at least once a year (dealer should do it at service, so do check with them...)

If you want to see if it is well adjusted just close all windows with the roof off and see if the tops of the windows are in line with the little rear widows, both height and vertical join. Due to the way the rear window closes, the vertical join being exactly parallel means that the rear window is well adjusted, so you can then compare height with the front.. A difference of a mm or so is ok, but much more than that, then you will get bounce backs if it is too high or leaks if it is too low...

 

[sunscreemer]

Hi Simon,

My car went in to be "Krytoxed" and also becasue i did have some leakage through the front windows. It's obvious that they've jacked them up a bit as the front windows are now a little higher than the rear windows when up with the roof off (i do remember them being virtually level before). They've obviously jacked the drivers one up a bit too much and it's triggering the anti-pinch. One things is for sure though, i did journey out in bad weather the other day and there seemed to be no leaks! Of course, there was a pool on the passengers seat which i'm 99% certain came in when i unlocked the car and both windows did the 5mm drop (i wish it didn't do that on the passenger window when you only press the unlock once to open the drivers door!).

Cheers,

Mark

 

[cambourne7]

Whats "Krytoxed"?

 

[GOgg]

Its the special lubricant for the roof seals on the Eos. Its probably going to be one of your first purchases (unless you get some free wipes when you get the car). It keeps the seals flexible and cuts out a lot of the squeaks and creaks as well as keeping the water out. Expensive but a very sensible maintenance for every Eos owner. Do a search on the forum for Krytox there is a lot of useful information here.

HTH

 

[SiJ2000]

Mark,

Like you said, most water ingress in the front is actually caused when the windows open slightly to allow the door to open... A surprisinf amount of water can get in when that happens... It's quite harmless though, except when it decides to flood the window switches!!! They should have thought a bit more carefully about where they put those!

S

 

[sunscreemer]

Hi Simon,

I'm yet to see a frameless windowed car which doesn't have that problem though, also in my Mk2.5 MX-5 at least the window switches were in the centre near the handbrake!

I actually had water coming in at the top of the a-pillar seeping through where the plastic slides inside the knuckle at the top. Also seemed to seep in on each side through a very small indentation in the seal where the window met about 3/4 of the way up the front, which is i guess why they've adjusted the windows to be a tighter fit.

They did add Krytox and gave me some wipes after that though and all seems ok so far, can't see it too much of a job to fix the one touch windows operation, hopefully....!

Cheers,

Mark

 

[SiJ2000]

Hi,

Thats what I meant, they should have had the switch pack in the centre or something like that, but there ya go!

 

[BobP]

both windows did the 5mm drop (i wish it didn't do that on the passenger window when you only press the unlock once to open the drivers door!)

Doesn't happen on mine, I just double checked. The passenger window only drops on the second press.

 

[SiJ2000]

It depends on how you have the car set up.... On some it will open all doors and some on second press... Mine does it on second like yours.

 

[Coconut]

Convenience mode

The dealer has the car today to look at the roof / window isssue - it seems that an adjustment is needed as it is the safety mechanism operating when the window hits the roof seal.

While waiting for it to be returned I thought I'd just answer the question for sunscreamer ( despite the thread creep ) about both windows opening the 5mm when unlocking :

This can be set in the Convenience Menu - just change the settings to open the driver's door only and you should be OK - Pressing the remote unlock button will then only unlock the driver's door, and therefore only that window will lower. If you have a passenger press the unlock button on the remote twice to unlock both doors

 

[BobP]

I thought sunscreemer already had it set like that as he said "when you only press the unlock once to open the drivers door!".

My EOS and Golf Plus both came with the setting for driver door only on first press so I'm guessing that's the factory default.

 

[Coconut]

BobP

No - like I say, it depends on how it is set up in the Convenience Menu.

If you set it for "all doors" then ( when the car is locked ) one push of the unlock button on the remote will open both front doors and the boot.
( It appears this is how sunscreemer has his convenience mode set up ).

If the convenience menu is set to "one door" then only the drivers door will open when the remote unlock button is pushed once, giving you the option to press the button twice if you want both doors to unlock.

Anyway - got the car back from the dealer - they have adjusted the window and this seems to have cured the problem of it rolling back, but they have installed a new fault - a really annoying SQUEAK ( sounds quite gritty like something sharp scratching on the glass ) just as the window gets to the upper limit, which is coming from the door seal not the roof seal - it squeaks even with the roof down

Car has to go back for them to sort the shoddy workmanship of a recent VW after market mobile phone hands free kit, so will get them to have another go !