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I have just got the EOS back from the dealers after having had a new Dynaudio head fitted, three leaks in the boot sorted (complete new set of seals) and the hardened roof seals replaced. Now for the naughty bit - I was told that the roof seals are not covered by the vehicle warranty and that it states in the handbook that the seals should be treated with Krytox after every, I repeat EVERY washing. Well, stat-me-vitals boys and girls, you can imagine what my response to that was "So where's the three years free supply of Krytox then and I'll do it".
If this is true then everyone needs to be made aware of it and that means every bugger who buys an EOS should be told, not just expected to read about it in their handbook. Each EOS needs a damn great sticker across the windscreen stating that VW do not guarantee the quality of their roof seals.
Personally, I do not see how they can do this, it's like having a selective warranty, I understand that they won't replace wiper blades under normal circumstances but to say that it's the customers responsibility to treat the roof seals is taking the p*ss big time!
I know that the windscreen seals on the Peugeot 306 cabriolet tend to turn to aero chocolate but at least they had the decency to last four or five years, not expire within the warranty
 

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That's staggering, although my dealer did tell me, when asked, that the seals should be treated after every wash , but I naturally presumed he was exaggerating. Whatever next, treating each time after it rains?!

However my handbook specifically says only that " we recommend that you clean and treat the CSC roof rubber seals regularly" ( please can they clarify what regular means - once a year every year would be regular wouldn't it? ) and nowhere have I heard or read that roof seals are not covered by the warranty.

In view of the potential roof problems for all EOS drivers, this really needs clarifying....
 

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When I purchased my Eos just over 2 years ago the dealer said I should treat the seals every 6 months with the wipes he supplied and that is what I've been doing. Though I now use Krytox 'from the bottle' which I find is a lot better.
 

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Prior to the EOS we had a couple of SLK's ( 170 Kompressor fantastic 171 3.0 manual complete disaster with multiple electrical faults ) They needed seal treatment with Krytox once/ year had no leaks. I will treat the EOS a lot more due to the level of leaks but would say every 6 months is enough. Having seen the wipes i would not bother go for the bottle. I have discusssed with local VW specialist who worked on EOS as master tech in Milton Keynes, he agrees use the bottle
 

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I sympathise with your rightful indignation, Topless. I have read elsewhere that there was a requirement to re-grease the seals after every wash, but can't for the life of me find it now. Especially in the usual UK climate, that is virtually a fortnightly task, not so often here in Brisbane.

As I said in a previous post, which unfortunately no-one commented on, should any manufacturer in 2010 be producing, especially, as you say, without clear caveats, a car that requires continual home maintenance? Can't a firm the size of VW invent better seals that annual, perhaps dealer actioned at service time, Krytoxing would suffice?

The warranty situation I am unsure about. Possibly someone can confirm or deny this vital topic. The warranty statement on the VW website is brief, but with VWs' devious background, I wouldn't be surprised if some let-out clause isn't hidden away somewhere!
 

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Seals should be covered by warranty and twice a year should be sufficient for treatment with the special lubricant.

Obviously it is vague as you have to use some judgement visually and by feeling the seals. They should be soft and pliable. Climate will have an effect on them too!
 

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I have a 2007 EOS and to revitalize my EOS seals (all) I use Gummi Pflege Stift. So far it’s working well.
How often do u lube using Gummi?:) I bought one recently to fix the seal at side sunroof which does not pop back to shape upon closing! Seems to be working well for the past few days.
 

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I read that the roof seals should be lubricated with VW lubricant part number G 052 172 A1 and not Krytox which should only be applied once.
 

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I read that the roof seals should be lubricated with VW lubricant part number G 052 172 A1 and not Krytox which should only be applied once.


Please advise the source of this information - I have never heard of any recommendation for the single use of Krytox.

All the information that I have read in the past 3 years about the "official" VW lubricant has repeatedly specified the fact that the VW lubricant is repackaged Dupont Krytox GPL105. This fact was also confirmed to me by an Australian Dupont distributor who repackaged Krytox GPL105 for another car manufacturer for sale as a branded spare part.
 

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by an Australian Dupont distributor who repackaged Krytox GPL105 .
Hi Silvershadow,
Can you say who that Australian distributor is as I am chasing some of that material. I have found one Australian distributor in Sydney, A. S. Harrison, who I believe sells GPL 105 in 50mL bottles, minimum order 2 bottles, @ $90 per bottle.
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Hi Silvershadow,
Can you say who that Australian distributor is as I am chasing some of that material. I have found one Australian distributor in Sydney, A. S. Harrison, who I believe sells GPL 105 in 50mL bottles, minimum order 2 bottles, @ $90 per bottle.
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I bought from them 3 bottles of 30ml a couple of years back GPL 106, $75 each. But I used 1 bottle for 3 years and still not finish (I lube 1 per year only though). The seals are still excellent condition, probably garage parking is the main factor.

If you are around Sydney, PM me if you wanna get one.
 

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Hi Silvershadow,
Can you say who that Australian distributor is as I am chasing some of that material. I have found one Australian distributor in Sydney, A. S. Harrison, who I believe sells GPL 105 in 50mL bottles, minimum order 2 bottles, @ $90 per bottle.
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Hi Russ,

Yes - Harrison's is where I bought mine as well.

For the information of overseas members - the price is high because the wholesaler's bulk stock was purchased some years ago when the AUD/USD exchange rate was much worse than it has been in recent times. The price also includes 10% GST and delivery.
 

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I bought from them 3 bottles of 30ml a couple of years back GPL 106, $75 each. But I used 1 bottle for 3 years and still not finish (I lube 1 per year only though). The seals are still excellent condition, probably garage parking is the main factor.

If you are around Sydney, PM me if you wanna get one.
Thanks for the offer Audionut, but I had ordered it before I read this, and I am in QLD so won't be around Sydney that often.
 

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I read that the roof seals should be lubricated with VW lubricant part number G 052 172 A1 and not Krytox which should only be applied once.
When I quoted this VW part number at my local VW dealership they said it came up as something quite different, IIRC they said it was some type of steering component grease????? They only sell the wipes at this dealership and apparently that is what they use when servicing Eos vehicles.
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When I quoted this VW part number at my local VW dealership they said it came up as something quite different, IIRC they said it was some type of steering component grease????? They only sell the wipes at this dealership and apparently that is what they use when servicing Eos vehicles.
Russ
Yeah they make more profit that way in the packet there are three small tissues in sealed packs one to clean one to dry and the last to apply the oil which is impregnated on the tissue.

So in my opinion coverage on the seals will never be equal, you should try Audi and Seat or search ebay I bought my small bottle from there.
 
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