[adrian]

Thanks to Captain, for the welcome and good info.

OK, 1st EOS I saw, was a VW-PURE , black auto, fully loaded

considering this was a VW dealer wanted $29k, I found the following defects

1> Extensive brake pedal travel (although brakes did hold) is this normal

2> cracked front lower fog light

3> small indentation on drivers door and scratch, covered up with a blob of paint stick

4> Numerous scratches and black paint sticke touchups

5> A very nasty looking (about 3 inches wide) paint damage, looked like somone had had brake fluid/acid, spilt of thrown on it, so the top layer of paint down to almost the primer had peeled and cracked.

6> Numerous scuffs on inside of the doors and steps

7> rear trim, by passenger side was ripped (about 2')

8> MOST WORRYING, the sales guy couldnt get the top up and down "easily", he had to fiddle with the switch, though he tried to disguise it.


However, the car drove good, and it felt good to be in a cab, acceleration for a 2.0 was not bad (I'm used to a 3.0 944 cab). Liked how the top came up and went down. Nice and smooth and quick, generous space in the back (especially with a baby seat) didnt feel clostraphobic in the back, with hood up, nice LARGE sunroof)

There are apparently, paddles for gear changes.

I managed to talk him down form 29 to 25, but when asked about the defects he said "Its all covered under w'tee) I wonder if I had not mentioned it, would it have been attended to. 29+tax came to around 34, which for that money I could buy a brand new car, or at least a base model EOS instead of a 2008.


Would appreciate your thoughts, also want to do this on finance,

Cheers

Adrian

 

[silvershadow]

Hi Adrian,

I would walk away from this one and especially the dealer; if they haven't attended to the obvious damage in pre-sale preparation, can you trust them with after-sales service especially fixing "warranty" items properly? The warning signs are there that this car has been neglected and this could include regular servicing.

I suggest you have a look around for a good MY09 car as these incorporate the upgrades necessary to address the shortcomings of the MY07/MY08 models. Each additional dollar you spend may save you two or more dollars in repairs before you factor in the aggravation cost due to problems.

 

[adrian]

Thanks SS,

upgrades,shortcomings.... YIKES

any further details on that

 

[David Paul]

Thanks SS,

upgrades,shortcomings.... YIKES

any further details on that

I totally concur with Silvershadow. Nothing older than an 09.

Just a couple of improvements after 08 were newly designed roof seals and the addition of a chain drive cam as opposed to the belt which requires regular changing.

The car you have been looking at also seems way too expensive for an 07 with so many needs.

Don't make the same mistake that so many young purchasers make by falling in love with something that you cannot afford in the long run by nickel and diming you to death.

Look for a nice Eos. They are available. It just takes patience.

 

[silvershadow]

Thanks SS,

upgrades,shortcomings.... YIKES

any further details on that

It is a well-known fact of life that the first two models of a new car are prone to problems that evade pre-production testing and only become apparent when the cars enter the real world. It then takes at least two upgrades for the manufacturer to fix these problems successfully - the Eos has been no exception.

The major changes to the Eos include modified roof seals to fix water leaks and modifications to the DSG transmission including a "hill-hold" feature to stop the car rolling back on hill starts. As the DSG does not have a torque convertor like a conventional automatic transmission; it is not possible to hold the car stationary by using the accelerator to increase the engine revs to stop the car rolling back.

Dual clutch transmissions are still a "work-in-progress" for all manufacturers as far as I am concerned and my preference for manual transmissions will remain strong until time lags in gear selection/engagement are properly sorted out.

The best car to buy is the last model before a major upgrade as the bugs will have been sorted out by the manufacturer. By the time you are ready to buy a new car, the equivalent newer car will also have been largely sorted out and should be a relatively safe purchase decision.

 

[adrian]

ok, thanks guys,
much appreciated
especially as I'm looking at spending lots of money, I might If buying an 09 be paying loads , may look at buying new.... money is not really the issue, as I will be using an investment to pay, think I could get a good deal on a new one?

Any ideas when the new models come out and they clear the older ones out?

Cheers

 

[rlkeen]

The new models are already out, with the new corporate front end. I like the 07-09 front ends better IMO. I bought an 09 Lux with tech, dynaaudio, and nav. It came from corporate fleet with only 4700 miles on it in jan., Black with black leather for 28400. That 08 sounds way too expensive with way too many imperfections. Stick with 09 or newer.

 

[ububba]

technically, the old front end went through the 2010 model (like mine). Wasn't the 2011 also the old front end?