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Honda sell a convertible but not into the USA market, maybe they will come soon to a dealership near you?
Honda Convertible, pics to look at:
Pretty much all of those are S2000's or the S660, which is a midget car sold in Japan. All the others are extremely old or just renders of convertible versions that were never made
 

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The S2000 Honda has appreciated quite a bit in the last few years. 20 to 30k is what you would be spending on one of those. Softtop only and two seats only
I was looking into S2000s before i bought my Tacoma. Had an original owner S2000 with 32,000 miles on it and garaged. He was asking $23k shouldve bought that when I had the chance but it really wasnt practical at the time.

Oh sorry, I didn’t clarify, I’m definitely checking everything else too. The car is actually at a VW dealership, I have all the VW service records, car fax history report etc. I actually have far more information on the car than I’ve had on any of the other cars I’ve looked at. I really think it’s a gem. I’ve just never bought a car before. At 41 that’s pretty lame, but true, just driven old hand me downs. I drove it and it drove beautifully. The tire pressure light came on, but it’s kinda been sitting for almost a year. I’m probably the only person to drive it on the highway in the past year as the service records show it’s been driven less than 1000km the past year. VW will be doing a thorough inspection, it’s just fresh on the lot. I can buy it now and if it fails the inspection, I’m not held to that contract. But I do want to commit soon. I normally don’t worry much about a car selling before the inspection, but I think there’s a good chance it will.
Got it. I meant bring to your mom and pop kid of auto shop for an inspection. Dealers aren't always honest but long as you have some type of VW warranty. Are they offering a warranty?
 

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I'd never buy a car based on what engine bay photos looked like. I would need to hear how the engine sounds, drives and look at details (often hidden) with my eyes. If you don't know anything about cars, pay a few beans to a local VW/Audio shop unrelated to the seller to inspect the car and give you their opinion to include a full diagnostics scan and printout? Think not about what you will have paid if you don't buy the car but what additional money you would have had to spend on future repairs. No used car will ever be perfect but you need to know if there's a liability for further costs. You also have independent advice with which to either get any faults fixed or negotiate a lower price. In U.K we have motoring organisations like AA and RAC who can do that although they would probably only do functional tests on the roof. IMHO I wouldn't trust a selling dealers inspection report on its own. Most will want to get the car sold and off the forecourt as soon as possible with minimal extra work and cost to maximise profit.
I missed the last part of your message saying you wouldn’t trust a selling dealers inspection report. But it’s at the only VW dealership in town. The n. I’m thinking of having my mechanic check it out, but he’s not an experienced VW mechanic.
I was looking into S2000s before i bought my Tacoma. Had an original owner S2000 with 32,000 miles on it and garaged. He was asking $23k shouldve bought that when I had the chance but it really wasnt practical at the time.


Got it. I meant bring to your mom and pop kid of auto shop for an inspection. Dealers aren't always honest but long as you have some type of VW warranty. Are they offering a warranty?
Unfortunately no warranty, unless I pay a bunch extra. The Honda does, so that’s another selling feature…
 

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Most warranties (any vehicle make) exclude canriolet roof system seal problems read the small print! Even V.W outsource their used vehicle warranty to another company. V.W used to post their multi-point inspection pro-forma on their website, download it if it's still there, or get a copy from the dealer. I complained this hadn't been done before my car was offered for sale on the forecourt and I was left pointing out defects I wanted fixed.
 

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I did it! I’ve committed to buying the Eos pending dealer inspection and my mechanics inspection. I’m SO excited!!!

Here’s my 2014 Eos Highline!!! Seems we have different model names in Canada. She only has 26,000 kms, one prev owner, garage kept, meticulous records… almost too good to be true. I’m beyond excited!!! I should get her in a week or so after the inspection/detailing. Thank you all for your guidance so far, it came in really handy. Super grateful I have a place to come and find out how to properly care for her going forward.

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The Honda dealership with the Accord was super slimy. They said it came with a powertrain warranty, but neglected to say it only covered 20%. They said it wasn’t a smoker’s vehicle, that was also BS. The accord was beautiful, but my gut said hell no, get the Eos.
 

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Hey all, I’ve found an Eos that’s pretty much everything I could ever dream of for a car. Incredibly low kms, one owner, no accidents, highline, my favourite colour, etc. But I live in a VERY rainy climate and I don’t have a garage to park her in. Sometimes it rains non-stop for weeks here. I will definitely research and do all suggested maintenance, but it sounds like water leaks are a really common problem. Is there a good chance that I’d be walking into a miserable dank driving existence, when I should be letting her go to someone with a garage?

Thanks for any input. If I do get her, I’m sure you’ll be hearing from me often.
I bought a bottle of Gummi Phledge from Amazon for about $20. It’s the stuff BMW recommend to rejuvenate and treat weather seals.
Treated my daughters car a week ago. Don’t know if it works yet.
If you follow recommendations for cleaning channels and treating deals, you should be ok.
One thing I did read was to check the well and the roof system hydraulic pump to ensure no water is accumulating there. My daughters was dry…since you haven’t bought it, check before you buy
 

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Definitely run it through a car wash while on your test drive. That's the real test for leaks.
Mine leaks a bit from the front pillar joint with the roof, and I cant seem to find a solution. But thankfully I live in a dry climate and my car is garaged most of the time.
 

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it would be my daily driver, but I could definitely get a half top car cover. Thanks so much for the response 🙏
I have a 2013 with no leaks but live in the US Southwest. I bought this cover: Top Cover Full Car Sun Shade.
It's been terrific at keeping the seals from getting beaten up by the sun and is fairly easy put on and take off.
 

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I bought a bottle of Gummi Phledge from Amazon for about $20. It’s the stuff BMW recommend to rejuvenate and treat weather seals.
Treated my daughters car a week ago. Don’t know if it works yet.
If you follow recommendations for cleaning channels and treating deals, you should be ok.
One thing I did read was to check the well and the roof system hydraulic pump to ensure no water is accumulating there. My daughters was dry…since you haven’t bought it, check before you buy
Awesome, thank you. The phledge or Krytox is on the list to get. And I’ll try to figure out where the well and hydraulic pump are. I did check the spare tire area floor and back seat carpets and everything was bone dry dusty with nothing that felt like there’d ever been water. My dad used to check all this stuff for me too, I had no clue how good I had it until he was gone… but I’m so grateful for everyone’s suggestions through this process ❤
 

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Definitely run it through a car wash while on your test drive. That's the real test for leaks.
Mine leaks a bit from the front pillar joint with the roof, and I cant seem to find a solution. But thankfully I live in a dry climate and my car is garaged most of the time.
I will for sure. It’s actually been pretty dry up here since it’s been at the dealership, so I’ll make sure it’s seen some water. I’d definitely feel better about it if I had a garage, but I’m going to make sure I’ve got a cover if I’m ever not driving it for a bit.
 

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I have a 2013 with no leaks but live in the US Southwest. I bought this cover: Top Cover Full Car Sun Shade.
It's been terrific at keeping the seals from getting beaten up by the sun and is fairly easy put on and take off.
Thank you. That’s a super reasonably priced cover. I think I might’ve seen an unused cover in the back of the car, but if not, I’ll definitely be buying one.
 

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Hey all, I’ve found an Eos that’s pretty much everything I could ever dream of for a car. Incredibly low kms, one owner, no accidents, highline, my favourite colour, etc. But I live in a VERY rainy climate and I don’t have a garage to park her in. Sometimes it rains non-stop for weeks here. I will definitely research and do all suggested maintenance, but it sounds like water leaks are a really common problem. Is there a good chance that I’d be walking into a miserable dank driving existence, when I should be letting her go to someone with a garage?

Thanks for any input. If I do get her, I’m sure you’ll be hearing from me often.
Honestly, I’ve never owned a convertible that didn’t leak at least a little. If it’s very rainy there, maybe not the best choice. I do love my 2009 though, I will tell you that. Best of luck.
 

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I have a few updates as I still don’t have her yet. Next Wednesday if all goes well. The dealership has done the initial inspection and it’s going in to have the repairs/detailing done early next week. For a car with only 26,000 kms, she’s sure been a pricey one. But so far it seems like they’re being very thorough. In total with her previous owner and these upcoming procedures, she’ll have had over $15,000 done in maintenance and repairs. Originally they said my mechanic could inspect it, but then changed that to say it has to be done at the provincial insurance company mechanic shop. I’m not happy about it, but so far it’s been my only gripe with the process and the car salesman is very new to VW. I’m debating on if I’m going to have that inspection done and leaning towards not as I’d imagine they just check off boxes on a safety inspection, not give suggestion/advice like my mechanic would have.

a couple things seem concerning that I haven’t asked them about yet, I’m going to wait until I have the full inspection report. It’s had the fuel until replaced twice. This comes up as the most common repair on repairpal, but two units in under 26,000 kms seems excessive. It’s also had the radiator replaced and that was concerning to one friend, but when I look it up online it seems a bit more common for how old it is as opposed to how little it’s been driven. I really know very little about cars, but I’m trying. I’d hired an auto broker to help me, but that ended up going sideways.

I could pay for a warranty, but it’s $2500/1yr-$5000/4yrs and while it sounds like it covers most things, including the roof, there’s a chunk of stuff that it doesn’t, including, but not limited to, “exhaust and emission systems, batteries, shock absorbers, struts / mounting plates, clutch assembly, brake rotors and drums, friction brake material, friction clutch disc and pressure plate, light bulbs, fuses, throw out bearing, door and trunk handles.”

Anyways, any opinions/suggestions on any of this is greatly appreciated.
 

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this is a big purchase. dont take short cuts. You tell them youre going to you mechanic for the inspection. They cant say no unless thats different in CA? If they say no again. tell them to f off and go elsewhere
 

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this is a big purchase. dont take short cuts. You tell them youre going to you mechanic for the inspection. They cant say no unless thats different in CA? If they say no again. tell them to f off and go elsewhere
I get what you’re saying, for sure… I’ve just been looking for months and these guys have so far been the most transparent of any dealership, private seller, or auto broker that I’ve dealt with. I can sort of see it from their perspective, although I’m not happy about it and stated as such. But they don’t know my mechanic and have given me the option to take it to a place that’s likely the most non-biased place.

I’m hoping to get my mechanic to have a look at all the records once I get the full inspection and maybe see if he’d be up for coming with me for a test drive. His shop is just around the corner. Then if he has any major concerns, go from there.

I’m on an island where there’s not a lot of good/affordable options I like. I’ve walked away from a chunk of cars at the first sign of BS. I could be wrong, but I’m not getting that with this one. I think they just want to make sure they aren’t screwed over. That said, maybe there’s a compromise like the salesman coming with me for the inspection.
 

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this is a big purchase. dont take short cuts. You tell them youre going to you mechanic for the inspection. They cant say no unless thats different in CA? If they say no again. tell them to f off and go elsewhere
But I’m going to look up the Motor Dealers Act to see if it says anything in there. It’s probably a good thing for me to read over anyways. I might not know cars, but I do have a background in law.

Edited to add: Alright, so it doesn’t say anything about them legally having to allow outside inspections, but they do have to stand by the accuracy of everything in their inspection/description. So if I buy the car and swing by my mechanic for an inspection after and there were any discrepancies, there is some recourse.

Ohhhh and this is definitely good to know “Every vehicle must last for a reasonable period of time given the normal use of the vehicle and the circumstances of the sale (such as price, etc.) This implied warranty can be waived for a used vehicle. Be cautious if you are asked to waive it.”
 

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But I’m going to look up the Motor Dealers Act to see if it says anything in there. It’s probably a good thing for me to read over anyways. I might not know cars, but I do have a background in law.

Edited to add: Alright, so it doesn’t say anything about them legally having to allow outside inspections, but they do have to stand by the accuracy of everything in their inspection/description. So if I buy the car and swing by my mechanic for an inspection after and there were any discrepancies, there is some recourse.

Ohhhh and this is definitely good to know “Every vehicle must last for a reasonable period of time given the normal use of the vehicle and the circumstances of the sale (such as price, etc.) This implied warranty can be waived for a used vehicle. Be cautious if you are asked to waive it.”
Well, it seems like you have done your homework with the Eos and have a degree of confidence in the dealership. That's pretty much all you can hope for with a used car. If the dealership has a good reputation, that helps.

As far as warranties go, $5,000 for four years does not seem bad. I was offered a three month/4500 mi warranty on my used 2007 Eos but declined (for a discount of $150) it since the warranty company had a shitload of complaints against it. It had a good Better Business Bureau rating due to the fact that it responded to all of the complaints to the BBB's satisfaction. It apparently screwed the warranty subscribers for not precisely following the letter of the contract.

The items that you listed as being excluded from warranty coverage are typical wear items that are not normally covered by warranties. That being said, in the U.S. new car warranties are pretty extensive on the drive train and emissions control systems. The U.S. EPA usually required manufacturers to warranty the emission control systems for ten years.

You will need to pay attention to the recommended maintenance schedules for the Eos. And, of course, routinely check your oil. Find a good, independent VW/Audi mechanic that is well regarded and apparently trustworthy. You don't want to wait until you have a problem to find one. The VW dealer will charge you an arm and a leg for routine services compared to an independent mechanic. (Personally, I have had uniformly terrible experiences with VW dealers when it comes to service).

VW recommends premium unleaded fuel (91 octane in the US) for the Eos, largely due to the turbo charger and relatively high compression. But it is only a recommendation - you can get away with a mid-grade without any significant degradation in performance. (My Hondas have always been able to run on 87 octane slightly diluted with cat pee ). The Eos also take a premium sunthetic motor oil.

You'll probably need tires right off the bat. Go to Tirerack.com to see what is available for the Eos' wheel size. You can base you decision on how various tires perform in the conditions you typically encounter. It sounds like you are in BC?

Best of luck with your purchase. It seems like you have done due diligence.
 
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Well, it seems like you have done your homework with the Eos and have a degree of confidence in the dealership. That's pretty much all you can hope for with a used car. If the dealership has a good reputation, that helps.

As far as warranties go, $5,000 for four years does not seem bad. I was offered a three month/4500 mi warranty on my used 2007 Eos but declined (for a discount of $150) it since the warranty company had a shitload of complaints against it. It had a good Better Business Bureau rating due to the fact that it responded to all of the complaints to the BBB's satisfaction. It apparently screwed the warranty subscribers for not precisely following the letter of the contract.

The items that you listed as being excluded from warranty coverage are typical wear items that are not normally covered by warranties. That being said, in the U.S. new car warranties are pretty extensive on the drive train and emissions control systems. The U.S. EPA usually required manufacturers to warranty the emission control systems for ten years.

You will need to pay attention to the recommended maintenance schedules for the Eos. And, of course, routinely check your oil. Find a good, independent VW/Audi mechanic that is well regarded and apparently trustworthy. You don't want to wait until you have a problem to find one. The VW dealer will charge you an arm and a leg for routine services compared to an independent mechanic. (Personally, I have had uniformly terrible experiences with VW dealers when it comes to service).

VW recommends premium unleaded fuel (91 octane in the US) for the Eos, largely due to the turbo charger and relatively high compression. But it is only a recommendation - you can get away with a mid-grade without any significant degradation in performance. (My Hondas have always been able to run on 87 octane slightly diluted with cat pee ). The Eos also take a premium sunthetic motor oil.

You'll probably need tires right off the bat. Go to Tirerack.com to see what is available for the Eos' wheel size. You can base you decision on how various tires perform in the conditions you typically encounter. It sounds like you are in BC?

Best of luck with your purchase. It seems like you have done due diligence.
Thank you so much for all this and the encouragement. The dealership is actually replacing the tires (including the detailing, they sent me the cost of what they’re putting into it totalling $6000). I was surprised on the tires as they’re only 4 years old, but they’re cracking due to lack of use. Here I was thinking extremely low kms was a great thing, but is seems a lot of issues come up when a car sits for most of its life. I am in BC :)

It’s already somehow gone through two fuel pumps with the previous owner. I’ve never had a car that takes premium, but do you know if they’re at all related? I’ve heard that they don’t have to get premium, or that you can alternate premium/regular… but I’m pretty paranoid, so I’ll probably do premium for a while.

Thanks for the opinion on the warranty. I’m also hesitant as I really like/trust my mechanic and everything under warranty has to be done at a VW service department. I guess I haven’t asked him how much experience he has with VW’s though. Exhaust and emission systems just sounded pretty vague and I assumed that could exclude things like the fuel pump.

Ohhhh you had Karmann Ghia, I love those old beauties.
 
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