[Simon1066]

Would welcome any thoughts & feedback on Eos ownership vs mileage -
I bought a 2012 Eos Komfort in 2022 with 59,000 miles on it, the 2nd and last owner had it since 2014.
Since buying it Ive driven it on 2 road trips first one 3,400 miles Miami Chicago return, last one 6,300 miles LA Chicago return.
The car is excellent for road trips due to it being really fun to drive, the DSG gearbox, its fuel economy (av US31.5mpg), the large sunroof and using it as a convertible when its warm and sunny outside.
Only downside so far are the noises from the roof / sunroof creaking sounds when driving on rougher surfaced roads and minor water leaking from the roof in very heavy rain.
Ive learnt to live with these as the joy far exceeds these issues.
The Eos runs and drives like it has 10,000 miles on it, the DSG is very quick and smooth, no warning lights, roof and sunroof all work.
I had the transmission fluid changed when I bought it and had the VW dealer check everything over before the road trips plus usual oil and filter changes.
So my question, should I stay or should I go?
Meaning the more I read in the technical forums and Eos YouTube technical videos the more nervous I become about keeping the VW Eos, timing belts, water pumps, roof mechanisms, DSG issues, the more I read the more I asses my risk in keeping the Eos.
Each of these issues seem costly to fix (Im not a mechanic) and here in Chicago there isn't an VW Eos specialist that I know of (if Im wrong please let me know) adding to my risk assessment.
Feels a bit like looking up an illness you think you may have - as you move from looking up say coughing to reading about risk of serious pulmonary diseases from coughing the more you read the more risk you feel.
So should I sell my Eos with now 71,000 miles on it a quit when Im ahead or should I keep it and continue its careful regular maintenance?
Should I trade it for a lower mileage version? There are quiet a few 2012 onwards models with 30,000 miles on them at slowly decreasing prices. Or does this put me at risk of inheriting unknown roof risks in particular with those vs keep the known Eos that I have now?
My gut feel is to keep my current Eos continue with its detailed maintenance and enJOY it but I'd appreciate others experience / assessment of the risks of Eos ownership as the mileage goes will go up to 80,000, 90,000 miles.
Any feedback on the Eos should I stay or should I go welcome!
Guess Im showing my age quoting a line from a Clash song I can hear as I write it from 1982.
Thanks.

 

[cb391]

An Eos, mechanically speaking is about the same as any other VW, so that shouldn't even be a concern. The roof is the only real issue. You can minimize your roof leaks by applying Krytox to the roof seals or use the slightly more expensive VW product. Your VW should be able to fix the roof rattle at least for a while. What makes your VW or any car serviced at a dealer so expensive is the $150/hour labor rates and it doesn't matter the brand. Early on the Eos had a ridiculous set of scheduled maintenances. Later on, they rolled that back. We have an 07 with 140,000 miles on it and have had few issues with it. We do stick with the scheduled maintenances, and we don't beat it. It has some miscellaneous squeaks and rattles which you can get in an older vehicle. Moving up to a newer model Eos does not guarantee that you will not have problems or even switching to another model or brand. As for a VW specialist in Chicago, there are many shops that specialize in German car repair, but not any roof specialists not even the dealers.

 

[voxmagna]

Only downside so far are the noises from the roof / sunroof creaking sounds when driving on rougher surfaced roads

The EOS roof segments are separated by rubber seals. When you get the noises you describe, it's your EOS shouting at you to get the roof seal service done (Krytox lubrication). If you don't do it, you will eventually start getting roof seal leaks.

 

[Trocheman]

Part of owning a convertible unfortunately. See how the lube works and go from there. cheaper way around it opposed to buying another car that will have the same issue.

Just searched and Amazon has it with a 10% off coupon. Seller seems good.

Amazon.com

 

[ecavuoto]

When I get my car serviced for regular maintenance, I have the convertible seals and the sunroof lubricated and all the water drains cleared. Never had a problem.My car is garaged so once a year should be fine. I have almost 90K miles on my 2015 Komfort.

 

[voxmagna]

A few years ago I thought electric vehicles would give peace of mind and all these gasolene engine mechanical worries would go away. But maintaining an EOS has taught me there is so much electronics in the car, that they become the weak point (which few understand) and the base engine blocks have got more reliable. But manufacturers then layered on the emissions stuff and added more electronics to make dirty gas and diesel engines run cleaner, but never clean.

I watched some vids on Teslas 4 wheel EV motor design. The amount of vehicle electronics and complexity is way above anything in our present cars and it's blown away my desire for a simple low maintenance cheap to own automobile. In a time of crisis or natural disaster, simple easy to repair vehicles will still be needed.

 

[2phast]

Would welcome any thoughts & feedback on Eos ownership vs mileage -
I bought a 2012 Eos Komfort in 2022 with 59,000 miles on it, the 2nd and last owner had it since 2014.
Since buying it Ive driven it on 2 road trips first one 3,400 miles Miami Chicago return, last one 6,300 miles LA Chicago return.
The car is excellent for road trips due to it being really fun to drive, the DSG gearbox, its fuel economy (av US31.5mpg), the large sunroof and using it as a convertible when its warm and sunny outside.
Only downside so far are the noises from the roof / sunroof creaking sounds when driving on rougher surfaced roads and minor water leaking from the roof in very heavy rain.
Ive learnt to live with these as the joy far exceeds these issues.
The Eos runs and drives like it has 10,000 miles on it, the DSG is very quick and smooth, no warning lights, roof and sunroof all work.
I had the transmission fluid changed when I bought it and had the VW dealer check everything over before the road trips plus usual oil and filter changes.
So my question, should I stay or should I go?
Meaning the more I read in the technical forums and Eos YouTube technical videos the more nervous I become about keeping the VW Eos, timing belts, water pumps, roof mechanisms, DSG issues, the more I read the more I asses my risk in keeping the Eos.
Each of these issues seem costly to fix (Im not a mechanic) and here in Chicago there isn't an VW Eos specialist that I know of (if Im wrong please let me know) adding to my risk assessment.
Feels a bit like looking up an illness you think you may have - as you move from looking up say coughing to reading about risk of serious pulmonary diseases from coughing the more you read the more risk you feel.
So should I sell my Eos with now 71,000 miles on it a quit when Im ahead or should I keep it and continue its careful regular maintenance?
Should I trade it for a lower mileage version? There are quiet a few 2012 onwards models with 30,000 miles on them at slowly decreasing prices. Or does this put me at risk of inheriting unknown roof risks in particular with those vs keep the known Eos that I have now?
My gut feel is to keep my current Eos continue with its detailed maintenance and enJOY it but I'd appreciate others experience / assessment of the risks of Eos ownership as the mileage goes will go up to 80,000, 90,000 miles.
Any feedback on the Eos should I stay or should I go welcome!
Guess Im showing my age quoting a line from a Clash song I can hear as I write it from 1982.
Thanks.

Any convertible will have squeaks and/or creaks, it is way worse on soft tops and of course, soft tops have more road noise. Proper lubrications of the top seals will eliminate many of the noises, but don't expect ANY convertible to be completely noise free, even the Mercedes SLK, BMW 3 series convertibles and the hard top Lexus convertibles all have a certain amount of noise associated with a multi piece hard top.

 

[silvershadow]

Part of owning a convertible unfortunately. See how the lube works and go from there. cheaper way around it opposed to buying another car that will have the same issue.

Just searched and Amazon has it with a 10% off coupon. Seller seems good.

Amazon.com

Only purchase Krytox GPL105 - anything else is a waste of time and money.

Just apply it when the seals lose their matt black colour and start feeling hard instead of supple when touched with a finger.

 

[doregan]

Would welcome any thoughts & feedback on Eos ownership vs mileage -
I bought a 2012 Eos Komfort in 2022 with 59,000 miles on it, the 2nd and last owner had it since 2014.
Since buying it Ive driven it on 2 road trips first one 3,400 miles Miami Chicago return, last one 6,300 miles LA Chicago return.

Thanks.

Keep it and maintain it. As others have stated, keep the seals properly lubed and pay attention to servicing the DGS transmission. If you haven't already, get a carfax for it to see how it has been maintained. It sounds like it has been taken care of.
Good luck with it.

 

[LJI]

Would welcome any thoughts & feedback on Eos ownership vs mileage -
I bought a 2012 Eos Komfort in 2022 with 59,000 miles on it, the 2nd and last owner had it since 2014.
Since buying it Ive driven it on 2 road trips first one 3,400 miles Miami Chicago return, last one 6,300 miles LA Chicago return.
The car is excellent for road trips due to it being really fun to drive, the DSG gearbox, its fuel economy (av US31.5mpg), the large sunroof and using it as a convertible when its warm and sunny outside.
Only downside so far are the noises from the roof / sunroof creaking sounds when driving on rougher surfaced roads and minor water leaking from the roof in very heavy rain.
Ive learnt to live with these as the joy far exceeds these issues.
The Eos runs and drives like it has 10,000 miles on it, the DSG is very quick and smooth, no warning lights, roof and sunroof all work.
I had the transmission fluid changed when I bought it and had the VW dealer check everything over before the road trips plus usual oil and filter changes.
So my question, should I stay or should I go?
Meaning the more I read in the technical forums and Eos YouTube technical videos the more nervous I become about keeping the VW Eos, timing belts, water pumps, roof mechanisms, DSG issues, the more I read the more I asses my risk in keeping the Eos.
Each of these issues seem costly to fix (Im not a mechanic) and here in Chicago there isn't an VW Eos specialist that I know of (if Im wrong please let me know) adding to my risk assessment.
Feels a bit like looking up an illness you think you may have - as you move from looking up say coughing to reading about risk of serious pulmonary diseases from coughing the more you read the more risk you feel.
So should I sell my Eos with now 71,000 miles on it a quit when Im ahead or should I keep it and continue its careful regular maintenance?
Should I trade it for a lower mileage version? There are quiet a few 2012 onwards models with 30,000 miles on them at slowly decreasing prices. Or does this put me at risk of inheriting unknown roof risks in particular with those vs keep the known Eos that I have now?
My gut feel is to keep my current Eos continue with its detailed maintenance and enJOY it but I'd appreciate others experience / assessment of the risks of Eos ownership as the mileage goes will go up to 80,000, 90,000 miles.
Any feedback on the Eos should I stay or should I go welcome!
Guess Im showing my age quoting a line from a Clash song I can hear as I write it from 1982.
Thanks.

People never bother to write in and complain about the good things. This is an extremely complex piece and, as such requires an increased level of care and maintenance. The roof articulately so. Add to that a high performance inter cooled turbocharged engine and a DSG Transmission and you have a tripple threat.
Follow procedures meticulously

 

[rcboater]

I have to admit I’m in the same boat as OP…..

I’m the original owner of a 2009 Komfort, which is about to hit 99,000 miles on my next time out. It has been religiously maintained from day 1, always garage kept. Living in New England, we very, very rarely have driven it in weather where the roads were salted. (And always washed it as soon after as we could.)

These days, it seems like every other post here is a “”My roof is broken” in one variation or another.
I realize that I am living on borrowed time- sooner or later something in the roof mechanism will fail, and it will likely not be (economically) repairable. I’ve gotten to the point where I plan trips, etc. to minimize risk- I try to operate the top as seldom as possible, and ideally only at home. ( I don’t want to be stuck with a partially open roof far from home.). In the summer, we still drive the car top down for fun, mostly on weekends, and sometimes it may go a month or so before we put the top back up. ( The car cover keeps the dirt and dust out in the garage.)

I sometimes think about “should I sell it now and get something newer, while everything still works, or should I just drive it until it dies?” But then I think that even if the roof no longer works, it could still be a fun to drive, peppy coupe…. but then again I’d miss my convertible!

An additional pressure is the shrinking pool of affordable convertibles. For example, if I want a low mileage Beetle convertible, I can’t keep waiting…..

 

[2phast]

I have to admit I’m in the same boat as OP…..

I’m the original owner of a 2009 Komfort, which is about to hit 99,000 miles on my next time out. It has been religiously maintained from day 1, always garage kept. Living in New England, we very, very rarely have driven it in weather where the roads were salted. (And always washed it as soon after as we could.)

These days, it seems like every other post here is a “”My roof is broken” in one variation or another.
I realize that I am living on borrowed time- sooner or later something in the roof mechanism will fail, and it will likely not be (economically) repairable. I’ve gotten to the point where I plan trips, etc. to minimize risk- I try to operate the top as seldom as possible, and ideally only at home. ( I don’t want to be stuck with a partially open roof far from home.). In the summer, we still drive the car top down for fun, mostly on weekends, and sometimes it may go a month or so before we put the top back up. ( The car cover keeps the dirt and dust out in the garage.)

I sometimes think about “should I sell it now and get something newer, while everything still works, or should I just drive it until it dies?” But then I think that even if the roof no longer works, it could still be a fun to drive, peppy coupe…. but then again I’d miss my convertible!

An additional pressure is the shrinking pool of affordable convertibles. For example, if I want a low mileage Beetle convertible, I can’t keep waiting…..

I used to leave my top down with the EOS in the garage and a car cover over it, used to that is. One day, took the cover off, got in the car, started it up and went for a drive, about a half block away from my home saw a huge spider crawling across the dash towards me. Well, narrowly avoiding driving off the road, I managed to slay my adversary.

No more leaving my top down, cover or not. 🤬

 

[voxmagna]

I realize that I am living on borrowed time- sooner or later something in the roof mechanism will fail, and it will likely not be (economically) repairable.

Very true and more so with the EOS. Physical problems are what most can understand and work on, but electronic roof system faults can be frustratingly hard work to find. The main thing is to keep the interior dry without inside condensation and regularly check the trunk floor, carpets and fish tanks for water.

The complex roof system has some bad design wiring practice that may eventually succumb to moisture and poor splice connections. The roof controller most hardly look at is the collection focus for all the sensor and control wiring connectors and water or moisture around there can eventually cause Gremlin faults. Most roof faults people post are usually down to lack of regular attention either by the owner or previous owner. Unfortuntely cabriolets need more tlc and 'preventive maintenance' than other cars.

If you consider reliability and wear over time, you might regard mileage as informative (alhough lower miles and frequent cold start commutes are an engine killer). The EOS roof will have relatively few operations during its life, but windows and sunroof design are weak and the roof depends on 4 windows and a sunroof to work. IMHO Webasco roof hydraulics are well designed and strong, but it's all the other bits that may go wrong.

 

[Rickgil55]

Only purchase Krytox GPL105 - anything else is a waste of time and money.

Just apply it when the seals lose their matt black colour and start feeling hard instead of supple when touched with a finger.

There is plenty of disagreement to that statement.
Rick

 

[silvershadow]

There is plenty of disagreement to that statement.
Rick

"A fool and his money are soon parted"

The seals on my partner's MY09 are treated with Krytox GPL105 twice a year by myself at the beginning and end of our UV peak exposure period and are still soft. supple and "like new".

My total cost for purchasing Krytox GPL105 is less than AUD300 [USD230] and I still have a near full 50ml container remaining after 15+ years of ownership.

This product works in our extremely harsh, sunny, hot and extreme UV climate when applied properly as proved by my experience.

There can be no disagreement just a simple confirmation from long-term experience in one of, if not the worst, UV exposure environments in the world.

 

[Simon1066]

Thank you everyone for your replies and suggestions which I used to decide that I'm going to stay meaning Im going to keep my 2012 71,000 mile Eos which leads to my next question - preventative maintenance.
What preventative maintenance do you recommend I do to extend the life of the Eos and reduce risk of mechanical failure?
At this time I'm planning to have the inlet valves walnut basted to remove carbon build up.
Not so clear on replacing the water pump, timing chain & guides, or anything else above the standard maintenance items.
Any experience, feedback welcome.