[SiJ2000]

All,

I have done a lot of investigation into this and come up with the following:

Out of the available Mods, the "Mods4Cars" one is definately the best and the most highly rated. www.mods4cars.com

If it has an effect on Warranty, it must merely on principle as it is completely safe and does all its features using signaling through the CAN bus in the way any diagnostic system would.... (It just electronically presses the buttons we would physically press)....

I have spoken to them and they have never had any damage to the car electronics because of any of their modules. If you follow the instructions,
there is absolutely no way to damage anything. Even if you were to short
circuit the CAN Bus, it would not do any harm. CAN bus devices
are designed to be failsafe.

The functionality of this module is excellent and you should all take a look at the site at least to see what the EOS is capable of with this mod!

(It goes without saying that I am recommending it as a good product and accept no bad feeling or liability if someone else orders one and fits it incorrectly or doesn't read the instructions and bends their tailgate against a brick wall.... Common Sense is an important element of anything!)

 

[lmn1980]

should be fab when fitted. Ur much braver than moi. There is no way I would touch the electrics as I wouldnt have a clue what I was doing. Did you get a quote from a garage as to how much they would charge? Also how much was the device?? looking forward to seeing the pics!

 

[swordfish]

Would I like one?
Yes definately.
Will it invalidate your warranty?
Yes definately.

Spoken to VW about this in the past. Hope everything goes ok for you, and I'll be really jealous of the mod, but it's just not worth it for me.
On another forum, (I'll give you the link if you PM me (don't agree with posting links to other forums)), it goes into great detail on how VW are fuming about this mod and are now able to detect it.
Whether this is just VW rumour, who knows?

Oh, and does your module have the ability to close/open the roof whilst in motion or just the remote one touch? Only asking because I can give you a link to where someone has a module fitted and, whilst going at a very low speed, it b*ggered his roof up.

As I say, I'd love the one touch open/close and also the ability to put the roof up/down whilst in motion. I'm looking forward to seeing how you get on.


Sometimes i'm too much of a coward!!

 

[SiJ2000]

I am a lot of a coward, but quite frankly, all it does is send CAN signals! It doesn't do anything out of the natural realms of the car.... The only caveat is that you have to use common sense... For example, if you need to close the roof whilst moving only do it at under 30mph, where the wind resistance is minimal and also where you are going to keep constant speed and not have to stop and start moving whilst the roof it operating. Also, make sure the operation can complete whilst moving in a straight line and not whilst turning a corner (the G Force of a turn will bugger the roof!!).

The above is my opinion. I have NO intention of using the roof whilst moving under ANY circumstances as physical damage could occur.

This mod needs to be used with common sense! If it isn't, then it will break.... You have just as much chance breaking the roof bu closing/opening it whilst one side of the car is on a kerb (car is not straight)

It doesn't do anything that the VW diagnostics machine can't, but that doesn't invalidate the warranty by plugging in the diagnostics machine..... You just have to use it within the realms of common sense.... I don't plan to use the roof whilst moving under ANY Circumstances!! (Roof Suicide!)

 

[swordfish]

The damage caused to the car in question was because the car hit a slight bump in the road just as it was about to finally close. The roof bounced causing the "pins" on the front sides of the roof to miss the holes.
You can't plan for things like that, and the one touch meant the roof carried on closing and bent the pins and also made holes in the mouldings.
It isn't made to open/close whilst moving.

Not having a go mate, just trying to give a little advice on the subject I've gained from other sites. If you want to pm me, I'll send you the link to the site where it states the opinion of VW on this matter.

Still gonna be jealous, but there's NO way I'd use it on the move. One touch up/down is how the car should have been in the first place. If SAAB can do it (and have for some time) why not VW?

 

[ja51don]

In the first string you warn of bending the tailgate against a brick wall but according to the safety operation of the roof. It uses the rear sensors to check for objects at the rear of the car resulting in a safe distance to open. Hopefully this mod doesn't interfere with this.

Also in the handbook it states that if necessary the car can be moved whilst the roof is in operation (all be it at walking speed only) truth is I don’t think I would use it whilst moving any way but as it takes a couple of seconds to start I probably would be pressing the button a second before it stopped anyway.

Not worth getting this mod yet as I am waiting for a new replacement due to a leaky seal

 

[schoolhousefred]

if you need to close the roof whilst moving only do it at under 30mph, where the wind resistance is minimal

Simon, I hope you are only joking when you say under 30 mph! I should think it is less than 3 mph! In any case, if you research Mod4Cars, you will find it does not activate if the car is in motion. Cheers!

 

[SiJ2000]

I think I'm being a bit contraversial with my opinions.... I won't be testing it!!!

I don't intend to use it whilst moving anyway... I really would only use it for four reasons:

1) Open and close roof remotely
2) Passenger mirror tilt in reverse and
3) Single click open and close
4) Car locking on driving off.....

I agree with everyone that using it whilst moving is VERY risky especially at the point where the side bars engage into the A Pillar.....

Regarding the brick wall comment, I was just being fecisious!

 

[SiJ2000]

Just to reiterate.. I have been thinking about this all day and I would have NO intention of using the "open/close whilst moving" functionality..... It simply wouldn't be worth the risk on a 30k car!

Thinking about the risk makes it an obvious decision to never enable this functionality of the mod if I got it.

I would not recommend to anyone to open or close the roof in motion under ANY circumstances!

 

[lmn1980]

go for it buddy, hope it goes ok.

 

[schoolhousefred]

Then, what will be next Simon? Spoiler, air dams, dual exhaust, chrome grille/mirrors/door handles, sport pedals, storage compartment under seat?
Go for it!
Cheers!

 

[SiJ2000]

LOL, so funny

I wouldn't intend to do anything else.... It really is the automatic door lock, parking mirror setting, auto roof remote and perhaps the single click open/close which make it tempting.

I would consider buying the module simply for the drive lock.... Everything else is just a bonus.. I had the auto drive lock on my old car and I really miss it...

 

[Eco]

I read somewhere, but can't remember where, that VW have a code that they can enter into the cars 'brain' that will enable the auto lock function.
Might be worth investigating, before fitting an aftermarket mod....

 

[schoolhousefred]

Do you think there might be a brain memory retrieval code for an old coot like me? Don't answer that!

 

[victorTX]

I have the other module installed, LCT brand but I would not open the roof while moving, just sounded dangerous, I bought it for the remote roof feature...that was very convenient. I did it one time just to test it out, under 5 mph check everysteps on foot first before doing it...yeah it works, but wouldn't want to do it though.

 

[swordfish]

I read somewhere, but can't remember where, that VW have a code that they can enter into the cars 'brain' that will enable the auto lock function.
Might be worth investigating, before fitting an aftermarket mod....

I had the double "click" passenger door unlock feature disabled and I'm sure I read about the auto lock at the same time.

 

[SiJ2000]

Another reason NEVER to use the roof whilst moving is that it sits in the tail VERY close to the mechanism. Just a small jog as it is going into the back could cause the sidebars to scape against the mechanism... Whilst that won't kill the mechanism, it can leave horrible paintwork damage on the sidebars!!

Also, I should imagine that is the reason the instructions for the car make it clear to never operate the roof except when the car is on level ground....

 

[SoCalMan]

Also, I should imagine that is the reason the instructions for the car make it clear to never operate the roof except when the car is on level ground....

I've open/closed mine on an incline. Not too steep. Still, no problems.

 

[Jim]

LOL, so funny

I wouldn't intend to do anything else.... It really is the automatic door lock,

I would consider buying the module simply for the drive lock.... Everything else is just a bonus.. I had the auto drive lock on my old car and I really miss it...

Not sure if it is what you want. But mine automatically locks the doors at about 5kph. It is a std feature on the French EOS so if yours doesn't it can probably be set by your dealer.

 

[SiJ2000]

I'll have a think about it