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Can you please provide an update on how successful your repair has been.

The dreaded lifting has started on my partner's Eos and I am now starting to search for a resolution :mad:.

Does anyone know if other VW models post 2007 also have this problem :confused:?

Thanks for any information - hopefully someone may have found a solution.

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I had a look at 2 cars today both 2007 models and they had the same issues. I live in sydney by the way.


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SWMBO has booked her Eos with the Newcastle VW dealer to get the problem fixed - I have told her to demand "ex-gratia" warranty as it is an inherent known fault arising from faulty manufacturing when the vehicle was assembled.
 

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I have same front panel problem with peeling also in back panel arm rest material puffing up. Went to an auto interior professional. He stated since 2000 VW went cheep with materials and are almost impossible fix. Made only to have a 10 year life span I'm trying different products to see what will work, the fiber board material that is the base is the whole problem it flakes and will not hold I have some airplane mechanic friends and will see if they have any suggestions. Airplane interiors are as bad as VW.
 

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You would need to do some tests but with problems like yours the base 'core' or 'former' for the covering is more important to recover because vinyl and fabric covers are more easily available?

Starting with a thoroughly dry base core, I would think about trying a glass fiber resin with 6-7% catalyst, thinned 10% with acetone then brushed on quickly to stabilize the OE base. After curing, use filler to smooth over any surface damage and restore the original profile? :confused: Once the resin absorbs and cures in the base, it will survive water and last a very long time. :)

This solution should work well on water damaged door cards. If parts have swollen, brush with catalized resin, clamp between polythene sheet using plywood and drywall screws then leave to cure.
 

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SWMBO has booked her Eos with the Newcastle VW dealer to get the problem fixed - I have told her to demand "ex-gratia" warranty as it is an inherent known fault arising from faulty manufacturing when the vehicle was assembled.
This reply caught my attention. I’ve been regretfully experiencing vinyl peel back on my 09’s driver’s side door for the last several years. I had a friend attempt to fix it (worked for about 18 months then it started peeling away again. Is this “ex-gratia” warranty a thing throughout the VW dealer service ecosystem? I’m in the US & it’s pretty clear to me from reading this thread that this peeling is a prevalent issue. I’d like to get it repaired without having to replace the whole door.
 

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This reply caught my attention. I’ve been regretfully experiencing vinyl peel back on my 09’s driver’s side door for the last several years. I had a friend attempt to fix it (worked for about 18 months then it started peeling away again. Is this “ex-gratia” warranty a thing throughout the VW dealer service ecosystem? I’m in the US & it’s pretty clear to me from reading this thread that this peeling is a prevalent issue. I’d like to get it repaired without having to replace the whole door.

I gave up in disgust as our service dealer could not get VW to "come to the party" with a customer goodwill contribution to the replacement :mad:

"Ex-gratia" warranty is something that has to be negotiated by the dealer on your behalf or by your country's consumer protection authority unless there are cost limits on their jurisdiction.

In our case, the door interior skin and inside panel were replaced in their entirety - so far, the problem has not reoccurred. The unusual aspect is the left hand door panel is still like new after 10 years of ownership from new.
 

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I noticed this on our passenger door vinyl earlier this year.
It was strip about 8 inches long and 2-3 inches deep at the rear end of the door/window sill.
Adelaide has a hot dry climate at this time of year so water/humidity is (probably) not the cause.

4 weeks ago I removed the door card and attempted to fix the problem with contact adhesive.
It didn't work!
The hot weather softened the adhesive and, due to the elasticity of the stretched vinyl, the vinyl peeled back after 2 days.

Over the weekend, I tried it a second time, this time using Araldite.
The door card was placed in the sun for a few minutes to heat up the vinyl so that it would be easier to stretch.
I then applied some adhesive under the edge of the door card on a 2 inch section, stretched the vinyl so that about a half inch strip of vinyl could be folded under the edge of the card, and then clamped that section.
After about 10 minutes, it was back in the sun for the next 2 inch section.

Really needed 4 hands to stretch the vinyl, fold it under, and clamp the vinyl while adding some cloth to protect the vinyl.

Will see how it holds out over the next few days/weeks.
Just got a 08 knowing this was an issue. Did your fix work?
 

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Superglue worked just fine. Not perfect but good enough unless you're looking for it. :)
Thanks for sharing the information. My 09 EOS vinyl has separated from the door card at the top and on both doors. Any specific Brand of SuperGlue? Appreciate any help. Thanks so much!
 

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I'm afraid this annoying problem will get more common as EOSs get older. It starts with a basically bad design. The vinyl is factory (heat?) shrunk around high density foam core which forms the top capping. The vinyl they use has an adhesive backing. The problem is where it runs along the inner side closest to the glass, they only wrapped it around the edge of the core a few millimeters. That area is where condensation from the window glass collect, hits the long edge of the vinyl and wicks up between it and the core. In hot weather, sun along the top of the capping warms up the vinyl layer and trapped moisture producing vapor and causing it to bubble and loosen away from the adhesive. Because it was heat shrunk over the core initially, as soon as the adhesive weakens it pulls up under tension away from the edge. If they had been more generous with the wrap around - say 15-20mm, this should have held it.

You can buy similar grained vinyl. Mine is black trimmed for a cornsilk beige door card. The top section with the black grained vinyl is a separate part of the door card. However, there are a million black plastic welded rivet pegs holding it together and each peg is underneath the second color on the main part of the card. So it isn't so easy to separate the two parts leaving the lower part vinyl undamaged. But if the alternative was an expensive replacement door card I think it could be worth a try working carefully around the plastic rivets with a digital temperature controlled iron and re-using them? You would then have just the 2 smaller long door cappings to send off to the auto vinyl repair shop, requesting at least 20mm wrap around along the edges. I've used a soldering workstation before to re-form and re-use plastic rivets. It's just a matter of getting the right temperature. You melt around the edges pushing the plastic towards the center which releases them. You can always match the plastic with a filler rod to create a new 'mushroom' after clamping the parts together. The rivets will be a standard metric diameter and having some thin walled tube the same ID would help achieve the correct diameter allowing the parts to be separated

I think if the mood takes me that's what I might try when mine gets worse. Until then I've run a black Sharpie along the gap to make it less visible.
 

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Just acquired our first Eos here: a 2008 Lux in early May 2020. Door cap vinyls have both been tackled by previous owners and they look about as handsome as a warty toad. Lumps of cement and swollen panel material everywhere.

While I can see the threads above debating the mechanisms, the basic issue is that VW Portugal or whomever made the panels didn't appear to wrap the vinyl around the lip, instead cementing it down to the lip edge, creating a lifting/entry point for moisture or heat or shrinkage, etc.

I have to think taking the panels off (not that difficult) and disassembling the upper cap trim and replacing with an increased amount of vinyl will get us back in shape. Anyone gone this far?
 

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You are absolutely right and I've thought about it some since buying new from the stealer will need a Mortgage.

The first problem is finding vinyl with a similar pattern to the OE. I think the carbon fiber patterns will look odd. The second problem is understanding how the top section of the capping is fixed since it would have to be removed. They use a zillion plastic head rivets which are blind on one side and heated to flatten them on the capping side. You would have to work on all of those and put them back. I think there's a way because you can work them around the edges with a digital controlled temp soldering iron. Then the final problem is what adhesive will you use to fix down the new vinyl? Of course you will replace with more width on the wrap around underneath.

My feeling is do most of the work yourself to split the upper panel away and send it off to a vinyl repair specialist who will have the oven, good (expensive) vinyl glue and the vinyl that could be a close match. My vinyl is black in the top half which should be easier to find.

The reason you have a naff repair is nobody here seems to have come up with a solution. Somebody has to be first!
 

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There is a solution but it is expensive - the entire door panel on SWMBO's MY09 Eos was replaced with a new OEM panel a few years ago and there has been no further problem. The off-side door panel is original and shows absolutely no signs of any lifting/deterioration whatsoever.

There has to be an explanation - so far, this has completely eluded me???
 

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I think the explanation is reasonably straight forward:

Water, moisture and heat are the enemies.

The level of condensation occuring inside the cabin can be huge, particularly if the car sits outside 24/7 like mine. Often it is caused by very small water leaks, insufficient to show as pools and in some locations where they hide their water absorbing acoustic matting. These soak up water and cabin condensation becomes the norm. It is this condensation that helps lift the edge of the vinyl on the capping, but water also gets there when you take the windows down. The long inside wiper blade removes water misting on the inside the glass surface and deposits it along the edge of the capping in the channel.

The long door glass wiper seals are very poor at sealing and allows water to enter the hollow door cavities. The drivers window is used the most and will develop the largest seal gaps. Even small amounts of water can remain for some time before draining out the door bottom or evaporating inside. This evaporation and thermal rising can affect the inside of the door card and keep the top of the foam capping in moist air unable to escape. If you ever remove a door card, paint the inside with PVA adhesive or resin to seal it.

Another problem is opening the door in wet weather. If the car is mostly driven by the driver as single occupant, the driver side will have the door opened in wet weather and the driver window lowered more often than the passenger side. Therefore I expect the driver side door card capping to suffer first? But the real issue is V.W didn't fold the vinyl edge wide enough causing water to creep between the vinyl and the foam core!

After water has penetrated behind the vinyl, the problem gets worse in hot weather when sun hits the cappings. Trapped water vapor along the long edges becomes moist vapor able to penetrate the seam and foam core more easily, the hot vinyl loses some of its adhesive bonding and starts to creep up. More water and vapor penetrates and more of the vinyl lifts off. If the vinyl cover is cracking over the top roll edge but still staying firm along the long edges, I think this damage is caused by U.V, heat, stretching and contraction. My vinyl is black and can get incredibly hot in Summer. I did go around spraying on a clear U.V protector, sold for hikers bags and vinyl covers.

I don't think cosmetic repair methods really work and the issue has always been finding the right adhesive because vinyl is pretty inert to be able to form a chemical bond with anything. There are some specialist 3M adhesives used by the trade, which is why I might look to them to try a repair.

After monitoring the cabin and trunk with humidity meters, I did quite a lot of mod. work to reduce water retention and keep air moving through the cabin when parked for long periods. Those fortunate enough to garage park and only use their cars when the sun shines should suffer fewer problems. :)

a new OEM panel a few years ago and there has been no further problem.
I doubt their design has changed, but your new card would have had new wiper seals attached and they would have checked they were sealing all along the glass?
 
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